Do Atheists get into heaven? (Jesus Christ, ritual, moral, Earth)

[Mr Spinkles]

An atheist believes that there is no reward in heaven for good deeds on earth. So, if an atheist is good here on earth simply out of the goodness of his/her heart, is the atheist not just as moral as a Christian who is good and expects to be rewarded in the afterlife?

Why would God punish someone who lives a good, moral life without expectation of reward? I would imagine a just God would allow a righteous atheist into heaven as He would allow all righteous people into heaven. What do Christians believe?

[ONEWAY]

Hello Mr_Spinkles and God Bless.

According to the Bible, an atheist cannot go into Heaven unless He recieves Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior (Romans 10:9-10). You see, God is definetely just, but He cannot look upon sin, which all are in (Romans 3:23), unless they recieve Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior in their heart. In addition, no matter how many goods one does one will do one will not escape the fact that all have sinned and need a Savior. God's love is shown in the extreme, when He came as Jesus Christ and died on the cross for you and me. However, since we have free will He gives us the choice will we choose to love God or not? God does not seek forced love, but true love, that is why their is free will and their is a hell. Those who do not accept Christ go to hell, because they choose to not accept Christ, no matter how many good things one has done, this is the result. The choice is ours to make.

God Bless (Romans 10:9-10)

[Ceridwen018]

So what you're saying, is that belief in god, and therefore enterence into heaven, has nothing to do with morality? If Mother Theresa hadn't believed in god, she'd be burning in hell right now?

Try this analogy: I'm trapped in a cave with 200 people. I have found a way out, but for some reason, only 100 people will be able to get out before the cave collapses. It is up to me to choose who will live and who will die. If I were god, I would only let the people who liked me survive. However, I will use my imperfect reasoning, and allow those who I felt were most deserving get out.

Why is heaven awarded on kiss-*** rather than merit?

[Mr Spinkles]

Originally Posted by ONEWAY

You see, God is definetely just, but He cannot look upon sin, which all are in (Romans 3:23), unless they recieve Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior in their heart.

Why not? I mean, can't God do whatever He wants?

Think about unicorns. You don't believe in them--but it is not because you secretly know unicorns exist, but want to spite them by denying their existence. In the same way, atheists do not believe in God because the idea does not hold water to them, just as I'm sure the idea of unicorns does not hold water for you.

So would not a good God admire the moral strength of a good atheist who expects no spiritual rewards? Would not a merciful and just God forgive the moral people who do not think he exists, just as He forgives rapists and murderers who do think He exists?

[martha dodge]

Jesus Christ is Lord of All but not all see Him as Lord. Why would you want to go to heaven and serve a Master whom you did not believe in? I cannot imagine why either of you would feel at home there?

[Mr Spinkles]

And will you feel at home if you get to heaven and it turns out that Jesus was not Lord of All, but there is only one God and Allah is His name, and Mohommad is the last and most important Prophet? I think if it turns out we are wrong, we will take what we can get in the afterlife. :mrgreen:

The reason I am asking these questions is because I want to understand what people with other views think. It's good to ask questions and see why people believe the things they do. And it's good to answer the questions at hand directly, i.m.o.

[martha dodge]

If it turns out that Jesus has lied about Heaven, I will be totally surprized because He has never lied to me before and i certainly can't say that about people. No i will not be wanting to stay if allah or mohammed is in charge. Just like some people who don't believe in Jesus, i don't believe mohammed therefore i could not trust his after-life promises. I don't love allah and just as I won't live here with a man I don't love I won't live in the after-life with someone I don't love. If some of your so called other gods are in charge, I'll probably find me a cloud, crawl inside and cry for eternity.

[Mr Spinkles]

If I died and found out there was a heaven, I would be glad to be proven wrong. Would God turn me away, even if I lived a moral, loving life towards my fellow man?

[martha dodge]

Mr. Sprinkles, We who are Christian, totally understand that the numero uno #1, top of the list commandment, is to love Father God with all our heart. It is my opinion that we are really in another type of womb here on earth. We are really making preparations to be born into our true, new bodies, the spiritual ones. We are going to live with God. It is my opinion, that after much trial, Father God, came to earth in the body of a man, we Christians call Him, Jesus. It is the logical thing for Father God to do since He had dealt with His children thru many years with prophets and they would not listen. Father God, i believe, created everything so He knows everything and He makes the rules. He is also perfectly just. If He told the Hebrew, I am a jealous God, thou shall have no other gods before me and i believe He did, then it would be unjust for Him to let them worship idols and not pay the consequences. That is what we can expect from a totally just Father God when we decide to live our way but ignore or deny Him. we will pay the consequences. Not only is Father God, perfect love, He is also perfect justice.

[Green Gaia]

Being a Universalist, I'd have to say that of course Atheists will go to "Heaven," whatever that is.

I don't think Jesus lied about Heaven. I think we have very possibly misinterpretated what he meant.