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Old 01-31-2005, 03:33 PM
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"Not if you place the terminology in its context. God isn't some impersonal force in Christianity. He speaks, acts, and has revealed Himself. We understand that in personal terms. Using "it" would largely defeat the purpose of that, by preconditioning us not to regard Him that way."

I didn't say god wasn't an impersonal force, but god that doesn't mean god has any gender at all. Another thing is, god doesn't speak or act like a human. It is impossible for god is NOT human. And it is only belief that god revealed "himself" but I feel that seeing a sunrise is god revealing "itself" which imparts no physical gender on a non-physical essence. Using "he" still shows an ignorance to me. I personally think that "it" could have the same meaning, and I sure wish people would regard "it" in a different way. Alot of wars would never have happened.
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Just keep in mind that some of us view one particular female as the only example of a perfect human.... Mary, the Mother of God.
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I agree that Mary is seen as a perfect human. But that still does not prove that god had any gender or should be seen as having such. I wish I could of met Mary, (if she was what they say she was of course )
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"Not if you place the terminology in its context. God isn't some impersonal force in Christianity. He speaks, acts, and has revealed Himself. We understand that in personal terms. Using "it" would largely defeat the purpose of that, by preconditioning us not to regard Him that way."

I didn't say god wasn't an impersonal force, but god that doesn't mean god has any gender at all. Another thing is, god doesn't speak or act like a human. It is impossible for god is NOT human. And it is only belief that god revealed "himself" but I feel that seeing a sunrise is god revealing "itself" which imparts no physical gender on a non-physical essence. Using "he" still shows an ignorance to me. I personally think that "it" could have the same meaning, and I sure wish people would regard "it" in a different way. Alot of wars would never have happened.
This doesn't seem to apply much to me. The terminology of "he" fits perfectly with the theology it's located in. It is an analogy because we God acts, speaks, and reveals himself. When I mentioned this, I wasn't saying that you were asserting that God wasn't an impersonal force. I was asserting that we believe that, and the term "it" isn't compatible with that theology. It may not fit in your theology, but it does fit in our theology, and it fits well.

That's not ignorance, but a different set of beliefs on God.

Also, I can't think of a single war that's been fought over the issue of whether to call God "he," "she," or "it." They simply haven't happened.
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The Divine Feminine is al the way thrughtout Christianity and always has been...you just need to know where to look....I shal write a brief essay upon this subject...for this website...and fuy expect it to be laughed at...lol c'est a vie

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I think religion never should have touched the subject of sex. It has nothing to do with it. Who cares if God is a woman, I would worship him/her the same either way.....for all we know she is a lesbian........what do you think of that?
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I disagree..I think SEX is inherant in religion....Even the Atom has male and female parts.....
Look to Hinduism....look everywhere..sex is inherant in God......but this'll be in my "essay" lol

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I disagree..I think SEX is inherant in religion....Even the Atom has male and female parts.....
Look to Hinduism....look everywhere..sex is inherant in God......but this'll be in my "essay" lol

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Please tell me exactly why sex is important in religion. It is an act of love between 2 people, it is a way to procreate. What does this have to do with my relationship with God?
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Alot of ancient religions believed that the original god was hermaphroditic. And got split into two sexes. So sex (or the act thereof) is done to bring one closer to god, because it is the combining of the two sexes. And the joy brough upon by that act surely gives evidence to that point. But I still believe that no sex should be given to the divine, but we surely can better understand the divine by our own nature, and that involves sex.
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Please tell me exactly why sex is important in religion. It is an act of love between 2 people, it is a way to procreate. What does this have to do with my relationship with God?
Because religions deal with the whole of our person, not just parts. Whatever affects us, is also subject to our religious views...and both sex and gender affect us a lot.
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