The divine female (Jesus Christ, Messiah, church, bible, worship)

[hoomer]

Originally Posted by anders

I strongly disagree. Educated people all over the world know that rulers of all kinds use the "plural of majesty" when referring to themselves. I doubt that you could find even one European Christian mistaking that plural for a reference to the Trinity.

Elohim is the Shekinah according to Arthur edward waite's bk "the holy kabbalah"....but no one cares

[oracle]

Originally Posted by prosecutor

hoomer:

My point you seem to miss is that historical characters must be assumed to be real unless the evidence warrents a different conclusion. To say "Adam and Eve" were not real people is without any proof to the contrary. If you wish to argue the point, please answer what I said about Paul. Did he consider both of these real historical people? If he did, the reference in Genesis is literal.

It is a traditional Orthodox teaching that the garden of Eden should not be taken literally and that it consists of a deeper spiritual meaning. I would say that Adam and Eve existed, but as for a literal man and his wife, they are symbols representing abstract things. An early church father even interpreted the story as allegory. Personally, I think it's absurd to think a woman literally talked to a snake. I really don't care what Paul thinks, there are some things he said that even contradicts Jesus' original message.

[prosecutor]

"Paul contradicts Jesus"? Paul wrote that "the gospel that was preched by him", "he received it through revelation of Jesus Christ" (Galatians 1:11,12) Then again, you informed us that "you really don't care what Paul thinks." Well, I'll take Paul over you any day. Also Paul never contradicted Christ. Now don't try and show me where he did. WHY? Because, oracle, "you don't care what Paul thinks".
Prosecutor

[Yes Man]

Mary bore Christ. Joseph could not do it so therefore Mary bore Jesus. If men bore children would Joseph been Christ's father? Would God be referred to as a goddess? Strange I know, but I stand by my opinion of God being sexless.

The holy spirit, pure beautiful, feminie energy, listen to your heart while meditaing on the issue.

[Ernesto]

Originally Posted by Isis-Astoroth

Though the original bible never mentioned God as a 'he', it has been translated so that it does. This had lead so many to see God as a male and not as a non-gender being.

Yes, but I think that's because of human nature instincitvely suppressing the female...in a lot of ways we haven't really evolved from this, unfortuately.

Originally Posted by Isis-Astoroth

I am not saying that Christianity is false, that it is in someway lying, but what I am saying is that I feel that it has pushed women into a position that the shouldn't have to be in.

Again, I agree with how bad this is, but I think it would have happened anyway..it's humankind's inability to learn that we are all equal. We're getting there, of course, gradually.

[blood-lord14]

Originally Posted by Freelancer7

The holy spirit, pure beautiful, feminie energy, listen to your heart while meditaing on the issue.

God has the right to be feminine in the right of marrying his son to adapt the curious angel ADAM thus we have the answer of why he is the first "man" and eve just came as told in the bible.

[Popeyesays]

http://www.bcca.org/bahaivision/prayers/33.html

This is a link to the text of the Tablet of the Holy Mariner. It makes a great deal of use of the "Dvine Maiden", the "Sophia" as part of the nature of God.

The prayer is mainly about faithfulness to the Covenant established by Baha`u'll's revelation. The prayer itself is a sufi style word poen, originally written in Farsi (Persian). It was a vision of the Divine Maiden that began Baha`u'llah's revelations when He was imprisoned in the Siyah Chal, the Shah's most horrible prison in Teheran. It was originally dug out to be a cistern for the baths near the palace, but was converted to a large prison where prisoners were chained to the walls in the perpetual dark. Prisoners were routinely allowed one hour a day in the outdoors, food was either provided by the families of the imprisoned or they starved.

Regards,
Scott