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Old 05-09-2005, 09:08 AM
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hi t3gah,

well revelation 21:4 speaks of death beeing nomore, along with pain and tears and sorrow. so, if there is to be nomore death, does that mean that people wont die? and if so, where or when?
and then there is the classic john 3:16, there are more tho...keep looking and thinking in context.
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This is who the 144000 are:

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Revelations 7:2
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Then I saw another Angel rising from where the sun rose, carrying the seal of the Living God. He thundered to the Four Angels assigned the task of hurting earth and sea, 3
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"Don't hurt the earth! Don't hurt the sea! Don't so much as hurt a tree until I've sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads!" 4 I heard the count of those who were sealed: 144,000! They were sealed out of every Tribe of Israel: 5 12,000 sealed from Judah, 12,000 from Reuben, 12,000 from Gad, 6 12,000 from Asher, 12,000 from Naphtali, 12,000 from Manasseh, 7 12,000 from Simeon, 12,000 from Levi, 12,000 from Issachar, 8 12,000 from Zebulun, 12,000 from Joseph, 12,000 sealed from Benjamin. 9 I looked again. I saw a huge crowd, too huge to count. Everyone was there - all nations and tribes, all races and languages. And they were standing, dressed in white robes and waving palm branches, standing before the Throne and the Lamb



Then after they are sealed there will be great destruction on earth:

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Revelations 8:5 Then the Angel filled the censer with fire from the Altar and heaved it to earth. It set off thunders, voices, lightnings, and an earthquake. 6 The Seven Angels with the trumpets got ready to blow them.

7 At the first trumpet blast, hail and fire mixed with blood were dumped on earth. A third of the earth was scorched, a third of the trees, and every blade of green grass - burned to a crisp. 8 The second Angel trumpeted. Something like a huge mountain blazing with fire was flung into the sea. A third of the sea turned to blood, 9 a third of the living sea creatures died, and a third of the ships sank. 10 The third Angel trumpeted. A huge Star, blazing like a torch, fell from Heaven, wiping out a third of the rivers and a third of the springs. 11 The Star's name was Wormwood. A third of the water turned bitter, and many people died from the poisoned water. 12 The fourth Angel trumpeted. A third of the sun, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars were hit, blacked out by a third, both day and night in one-third blackout. 13 I looked hard; I heard a lone eagle, flying through Middle-Heaven, crying out ominously, "Doom! Doom! Doom to everyone left on earth! There are three more Angels about to blow their trumpets. Doom is on its way!"
It was promised to the Jews that they would have there Promised Land. The meek shall inherit the earth. And because they are marked as the 144000, they will not be harmed during these times of tribulations, but there will still be a cleansing. Like When Noah was spared during the flood.

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Revelations 9:20 The remaining men and women who weren't killed by these weapons went on their merry way - didn't change their way of life, didn't quit worshiping demons, didn't quit centering their lives around lumps of gold and silver and brass, hunks of stone and wood that couldn't see or hear or move. 21 There wasn't a sign of a change of heart. They plunged right on in their murderous, occult, promiscuous, and thieving ways.
What happens in the end is still a mystery. But it will be like birthing pains. Since I picture myself as the individual cell of a much larger thing, I picture this as being a time when enough of us souls have matured to the point that we are born into a complete something instead of being separate cells. This is hard to explain using words that are designed to describe a material world. Because it’s something different.

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Revelations 10:4 When the Seven Thunders spoke, I started to write it all down, but a voice out of Heaven stopped me, saying, "Seal with silence the Seven Thunders; don't write a word." 5 Then the Angel I saw astride sea and land lifted his right hand to Heaven 6 and swore by the One Living Forever and Ever, who created Heaven and everything in it, earth and everything in it, sea and everything in it, that time was up - 7 that when the seventh Angel blew his trumpet, which he was about to do, the Mystery of God, all the plans he had revealed to his servants, the prophets, would be completed.
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maybe its because they dont know who the 144,000 are, and they are always looking to see if they can find one of the 144,000
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