Where Is God? (ritual, Earth, spiritual, faith, God)

[Zionic86]

picture a blob in a vaccume of nothingness. And picture that if anything exists it has to be in that blob. Therefore for something to be somewhere it has to be in the blob in order to exist at all. The blob is god.

[robtex]

In the realm of metaphysics within the universe.

[HelpMe]

where you're not looking.



still there.

[retrorich]

Originally Posted by Simon the Cat

In our hearts - although personally, I like to think of god as being in the clouds (trite I know but it works for me)....

Why do people insist on referring to the heart as the center of beliefs and emotions--when in fact they reside in the brain?

But excuse me for injecting a bit of science into a religious thread.

[HOGCALLER]

Sunstone,

You say: If I were a believer, I think I would believe that god and nature were the same. And, just as we are part of nature, so too we would be part of god. The implication of that view that I like the best is that we can learn of god by studying nature.

I say: You are correct to think we can be learn about God from his handiwork or Creation. But let me ask you, would you try to become acquainted with artist only from his paintings or a potter only from his pots? If you did do that would you think that the artist or potter would become your friend because you had studied his work? Also, do you normally think of an artist as being one and the same as his paintings or of a potter as being the same as his pots? If not, then why do you think that when it comes to God? You are free to believe as you wish; just something to think about.


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[Master Vigil]

Hogcaller, you made a good point in your last post. But you suffer your own fate. You constantly use the bible in your posts to make your points. Is that how you know god? The problem is that is the bible also just the artists paintings. Actually it is less. It is a reprint of the artists paintings. Take heed to your own advice.

[Sunstone]

Originally Posted by HOGCALLER

Sunstone,

You say: If I were a believer, I think I would believe that god and nature were the same. And, just as we are part of nature, so too we would be part of god. The implication of that view that I like the best is that we can learn of god by studying nature.

I say: You are correct to think we can be learn about God from his handiwork or Creation. But let me ask you, would you try to become acquainted with artist only from his paintings or a potter only from his pots? If you did do that would you think that the artist or potter would become your friend because you had studied his work? Also, do you normally think of an artist as being one and the same as his paintings or of a potter as being the same as his pots? If not, then why do you think that when it comes to God? You are free to believe as you wish; just something to think about.


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HOGCALLER,

Were I a believer, I suspect that I would believe that god and nature were the same thing -- including us as part of nature. In other words, were I a believer, I very much doubt that I would be a believer in the biblical God, but rather a believer in a god that made more sense to me than the biblical God does.

And yes, I would (and I do) think that I can learn a lot about a potter by studying his handiwork. I have found in fact that understanding an artist's handiwork often is more impressive to an artist than whether you know anything else about him.

[t3gah]

Originally Posted by retrorich

Why do people insist on referring to the heart as the center of beliefs and emotions--when in fact they reside in the brain?

But excuse me for injecting a bit of science into a religious thread.

There's a scripture in the Christian bible that points to the heart as the place where the Mosaic Law, which is now defunct by the death of the messiah, is supposed to be where these Laws are inscribed. Maybe that's the source, no?

2 Corinthians 3:2

Ye are our epistle, written in our hearts, known and read of all men;

[huajiro]

I think "God" exists in our conscience.

[Christopher Krajewski]

If God has the capacity of the universe for all its later (and we'll say also at this point earler forms) inherently, How does he and can he intercede on our thoughts?
My solution to the problem is: that he forlorns us after-all in our ability to decide if ipso-facto we would desire that or not. He accomplishes so when it is so achieved as of providence. Who's FREEDOM it is is non of my business but that truly is the joyful freedom from God. Personal freedom for the discoursive sense of a request in the community or the satisfaction of recognition, or sense of meditational realization of the soul is indecisive way so much in this day and age, that we not only doubt when it exists on its own as much as we doubt even God's existence. Going to this extent you may even decide for yourself that it is our personal business (to "believe" He exists), you may find that essence hard to swallow.