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Old 01-02-2005, 01:16 PM
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I've always had trouble understanding how Jesus could be both fully God and fully human at the same time. Next thing we know God will be creating triangles with four sides and making 2+2=5.
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Old 01-02-2005, 01:49 PM
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Excellent post, Runt! Yours has got to be one of the all time greatest posts on this board!

Fluffy, I agree that the concept of Jesus as fully human, Christ as fully god, and Jesus Christ as both fully human and fully god, sends me for a loop everytime. It is very like adding two and two to get five -- and five being the right answer! But the consequence of saying that Christ is not fully god is disasterous to Christian theology. And likewise the consequence of saying that Jesus is not fully human is equally disasterous to Christian theology. So, the traditional compromise has been to say that Jesus Christ is in some mysterious way beyond our understanding both fully human and fully god.
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I don't think I could fully answer you question, Chuck, without getting off topic in this thread.
Then I will not answer your question either, without getting off topic in this thread.

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However, the point of view that I'm taking in this thread is that even if Jesus is fully god, is he not also fully human? And if he is fully human, is he not also subject to the same learning curve as the rest of us?
In jesus' human sense yes however,

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And if he is subject to the same learning curve as the rest of us, is it not reasonable to suppose that Jesus would have become wiser had he lived longer?
Jesus in his human sense would have been wiser if he had lived longer. however because Jesus . A price had to . but the will of his father.
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These are interesting questions and I'd like to respond to some of them briefly:

"Jesus died in his mid thirties. He was obviously a wise man, but would he have been wiser if he'd lived longer?..."

We know that as a child He was wise enough to confound learned priests and scholars in the Temple... so I would doubt mere age in and of itself would have made that much of a difference... His wisdom was innate and came without worldly experience in the way of most men I believe...

There were certainly important religious figures that lived long lives such as Buddha and Moses... but i doubt anyone has suggested that these important figures were wise because of their age either...

"If he had seen more of the world than he did? Would he have been wiser if he'd had a better education? What do you think?"

Again, I thnk not... His charisma and innate wisdom was from God and therefore not of the kind we normally think of that is "acquired" knowledge...

People speculate about Jesus surviving the crucifixion and travelling to Kashmir or maybe Britain adn I've even heard the New World... but these stories are to me legends that people devised to try to bring Christ closer to their homelands.

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