Creation - God or science? (Earth, evolution, atheist, Christians)

[Dream Angel]

Originally Posted by Im an Atheist

sub atomic particles are the coposite of Atoms i believe, But if there is a God, then he would be made of energy and mass too, so he would of came from somewhere. because nothing cant create something.

And another point, if god does exist, the enegry and mass he is probably created out of has to die and denature someday?

has that already happened?

I agree the point about nothing cant create something - hence I dont agree with the big bang theory. However I think you need to read up on religion slightly more if you think God is made of material which can be created and destroyed??
Yes atoms are made of sub-atomic particles - where did they come from?

[Im an Atheist]

Originally Posted by Dream Angel

I agree the point about nothing cant create something - hence I dont agree with the big bang theory. However I think you need to read up on religion slightly more if you think God is made of material which can be created and destroyed??
Yes atoms are made of sub-atomic particles - where did they come from?

then what is God made from, if your suggesting he is made of an undestroyable material, then he a presence.

And a presence is some-thing you feel , and something you feel is not always true.

Its exactly the same as when you were a little kid you used to think there were monsters in your closet, your were adiment, so your kept getting up, checking, but there was nothing was there, you just felt that something was there. you felt the presence of the "monsters"

[Dream Angel]

Originally Posted by Im an Atheist

then what is God made from, if your suggesting he is made of an undestroyable material, then he a presence.

And a presence is some-thing you feel , and something you feel is not always true.

Its exactly the same as when you were a little kid you used to think there were monsters in your closet, your were adiment, so your kept getting up, checking, but there was nothing was there, you just felt that something was there. you felt the presence of the "monsters"

Actually I never thought there were monsters in my cupboard!

[stephenw]

I don't accept the concept of creation. The who created the creator/what caused the big bang etc. makes it meaningless to me.
We're here and my mind struggles with the concept of infinity, but I believe in it.

[Im an Atheist]

Originally Posted by Dream Angel

Actually I never thought there were monsters in my cupboard!

then thats you, im just quoting an example of what it is like

[Im an Atheist]

Originally Posted by stephenw

I don't accept the concept of creation. The who created the creator/what caused the big bang etc. makes it meaningless to me.
We're here and my mind struggles with the concept of infinity, but I believe in it.

Its a hard thing, Evolution Vs Creationism, your either on one side or the other, not on both.

If God exists, and he created our galaxy, our world, where did he come from, and where is he, nothing of a human nature or statature can survive in space.

And energy and mass eventually dies off

[Dream Angel]

Originally Posted by Im an Atheist

then thats you, im just quoting an example of what it is like

I have actually seen something in my room though..... that was only once though and whatever it was never came back (well visibly anyway!)

[Bouncing Ball]

Originally Posted by stephenw

I don't accept the concept of creation. The who created the creator/what caused the big bang etc. makes it meaningless to me.
We're here and my mind struggles with the concept of infinity, but I believe in it.

I'll keep both options open, but lean the same way as you do, for about the same reason as well.

I view the concept of infinity as a returning cycle in this case. Something infinite can "simply" be seen as a loop. making it not infinite.
Just one of theories though, as I have way too little information I do not stick to one theory here.

[stephenw]

Originally Posted by Im an Atheist

Its a hard thing, Evolution Vs Creationism, your either on one side or the other, not on both.

Why so?
What has evolution got to do with the origins of the universe?

[Im an Atheist]

Originally Posted by Dream Angel

I have actually seen something in my room though..... that was only once though and whatever it was never came back (well visibly anyway!)

Thats was probably just an orb or a mass of energy or a collection of dust, all ghost hunters have been fooled by those factors.

anywho, try and stay on topic dear ;