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Old 10-03-2008, 08:03 PM
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Agree Ben, living the here and now, and living it with the realization here and now of eternal life is heaven.

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That's not what I meant. Only through faith one can live the here-and-now with the realization of eternal life being heaven. Since where faith begins knowledge ends,
there is no eternal life in heaven. Only God is eternal.

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Greetings. Yes, we have a fundamental difference in perspective and my comment was meant to agree with the importance of the here and now for living rather than the afterlife. (Or was that a wrong conclusion from your post.) The second part of the sentence was from my different perspective. Your perspective is of great interest to me but your last post gives me confusion:
"Only through faith one can live the here-and-now with the realization of eternal life being heaven. Since where faith begins knowledge ends,
there is no eternal life in heaven. Only God is eternal."
Tis not necessary but if you care to provide additional explanatory words they would be appreciated.

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Old 10-03-2008, 08:19 PM
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Forget my previous post. If you agree with UV that's good enough for me.
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Old 10-03-2008, 08:58 PM
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Greetings. Yes, we have a fundamental difference in perspective and my comment was meant to agree with the importance of the here and now for living rather than the afterlife. (Or was that a wrong conclusion from your post.) The second part of the sentence was from my different perspective. Your perspective is of great interest to me but your last post gives me confusion:
"Only through faith one can live the here-and-now with the realization of eternal life being heaven. Since where faith begins knowledge ends,
there is no eternal life in heaven. Only God is eternal."
Tis not necessary but if you care to provide additional explanatory words they would be appreciated.

Regards,
a..1
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That was a citicism of faith. The faithful lives in the here-an-now with the realization of eternal life being heaven, and I find it simply fulishness. I don't believe in afterlife.

Yours was not a wrong conclusion of my post. I am sorry for my not having been clear enough.

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Old 10-03-2008, 09:39 PM
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No, that would be similar to the "misunderstanding" I spoke of.
So what our conscious minds process and do for us on a daily basis you would argue is not life?
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I would assume that you would. I would argue that there is a little more to it then just that but that once the brain dies whatever more it was is gone as well. That said I am far more interested in Willamena's response since I am really trying to clarify and figure out what she said for my own personal understanding of what she is implying.
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Old 10-03-2008, 11:04 PM
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