Daniel Chapter 2

[Ben Masada]

Originally Posted by Heneni

Hi ben....when do you think daniel will 'rise' again?

11"From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. 12Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days.
13"As for you, go your way till the end. You will rest, and then at the end of the days you will rise to receive your allotted inheritance."

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Daniel, the man, will never rise again. Those who die will never again have part in anything that's done unders the sun. (Eccl. 9:6)

Those 1,290 days of Daniel 12:11 is a reference to roughly three and a half years, the time the sacrifices had been abolished because of the horrible abomination had been erected on the altar of the Temple until three and half years later when the altar was reconsecrated by the Jews in what became know as Hanukkah. From 148 BCE until 145 BCE.

The number 1,335 days is to mean those who would survive up to the day when they would see the nation of Israel in full fledge, which in fact, the restoration that started in 145 BCE lasted up to 100 BCE, roughly the time when the author or authors of the book of Daniel and Maccabees finished writing them. That was soon after the death of the Hasmonian John Hircanus in 104 BCE, who had been ruling since 134 BCE.

Now, regarding Daniel rising again to receive his inheritance. You must remember that Daniel was extremely tired and weak when he had that vision. Then, at the end of the vision the angel told Daniel to "Go, take your rest, you shall rise for your reward at the end of days," meaning that it won't take too long for all those things to happen. (Dan. 12:13) Then again, everything can happen in a vision or dream; even for skinny caws to swallow fat ones and remain as skinny as before. Got the point?

Ben

[Heneni]

Originally Posted by Ben Masada

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Daniel, the man, will never rise again. Those who die will never again have part in anything that's done unders the sun. (Eccl. 9:6)

Those 1,290 days of Daniel 12:11 is a reference to roughly three and a half years, the time the sacrifices had been abolished because of the horrible abomination had been erected on the altar of the Temple until three and half years later when the altar was reconsecrated by the Jews in what became know as Hanukkah. From 148 BCE until 145 BCE.

The number 1,335 days is to mean those who would survive up to the day when they would see the nation of Israel in full fledge, which in fact, the restoration that started in 145 BCE lasted up to 100 BCE, roughly the time when the author or authors of the book of Daniel and Maccabees finished writing them. That was soon after the death of the Hasmonian John Hircanus in 104 BCE, who had been ruling since 134 BCE.

Now, regarding Daniel rising again to receive his inheritance. You must remember that Daniel was extremely tired and weak when he had that vision. Then, at the end of the vision the angel told Daniel to "Go, take your rest, you shall rise for your reward at the end of days," meaning that it won't take too long for all those things to happen. (Dan. 12:13) Then again, everything can happen in a vision or dream; even for skinny caws to swallow fat ones and remain as skinny as before. Got the point?

Ben

I believe in re-incarnation and 'rise' means living again. But thanks for taking the time to respond.

Heneni

[Darkness]

Originally Posted by Heneni

And there will never be peace on this earth. Not as long as the children of god are on the same planet as the children of satan.

The Children of Lucifer are not the problem. Despite the lies told about us, we desire to live in peace. We only fight because God has a flaming sword to our throats.

[Ben Masada]

Originally Posted by Heneni

I believe in re-incarnation and 'rise' means living again. But thanks for taking the time to respond.

Heneni

Sorry, but I still can't let you go. Just as there will be no resurrection. There won't be reincarnation. The one who dies will never have any part under the sun.

Heneni, a person is composed of body and the breath of life, which can be called spirit. That combination is called soul. It means, we are living souls. At death, the body goes to the dust and the breath of life goes metaphorically back to God in the sense that it mingles back with the wind. At death, therefore, the soul is undone. There is no soul as an entity apart. So, this life is all that we have, and we better make the best of it. Now, you can go, but see you around.

Ben

[Heneni]

Originally Posted by Darkness

The Children of Lucifer are not the problem. Despite the lies told about us, we desire to live in peace. We only fight because God has a flaming sword to our throats.

Then make up and say sorry.

[Heneni]

Originally Posted by Ben Masada

Sorry, but I still can't let you go. Just as there will be no resurrection. There won't be reincarnation. The one who dies will never have any part under the sun.

Heneni, a person is composed of body and the breath of life, which can be called spirit. That combination is called soul. It means, we are living souls. At death, the body goes to the dust and the breath of life goes metaphorically back to God in the sense that it mingles back with the wind. At death, therefore, the soul is undone. There is no soul as an entity apart. So, this life is all that we have, and we better make the best of it. Now, you can go, but see you around.

Ben

Alright, i will entertain this idea of yours for a while. Tell me then...where did enoch go? He never died.

[Darkness]

Originally Posted by Heneni

Then make up and say sorry.

God first.

[herushura]

Originally Posted by Ben Masada

Sorry, but I still can't let you go. Just as there will be no resurrection. There won't be reincarnation. The one who dies will never have any part under the sun.

Heneni, a person is composed of body and the breath of life, which can be called spirit. That combination is called soul. It means, we are living souls. At death, the body goes to the dust and the breath of life goes metaphorically back to God in the sense that it mingles back with the wind. At death, therefore, the soul is undone. There is no soul as an entity apart. So, this life is all that we have, and we better make the best of it. Now, you can go, but see you around.

Ben

I read about this before, as the word Spirit in Hebrew is RAUCH that means wind or breath. and soul in hebrew is nepesh that means "Breathing Creature".

The only problem with the bible is that its the other way round, Breathing does not create life, it sustains it.
Gens 1:2 - and the Spirit of God was moving : Wind of God - Wind of the Sun
Sun causes the wind to blow.

So in the morning his spirit was troubled... (Gen 41:8)
In the morning the wind was troubled.

[Ben Masada]

Originally Posted by herushura

I read about this before, as the word Spirit in Hebrew is RAUCH that means wind or breath. and soul in hebrew is nepesh that means "Breathing Creature".

The only problem with the bible is that its the other way round, Breathing does not create life, it sustains it.
Gens 1:2 - and the Spirit of God was moving : Wind of God - Wind of the Sun
Sun causes the wind to blow.

So in the morning his spirit was troubled... (Gen 41:8)
In the morning the wind was troubled.

Beautiful metaphor, but metaphor nevertheless.
Spirit in Hebrew is &