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Old 10-04-2008, 09:02 PM
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He is obviously referring to the biblical portrayal of god. Don't dodge the question.
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The Bible does not portray God as being Christian.

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Old 10-04-2008, 11:53 PM
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The Bible does not portray God as being Christian.

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Oh, Jesus... Why don't you just admit you don't have an answer to the question and spare yourself the embarrassment?
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Old 10-05-2008, 04:12 AM
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There is no such a thing as Christian God. God is absolutely One. And incorporeal at that.

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Well, it is understandable that Ben tries to avoid the pain of knowing that God made a new and better covenant with those that accept it, promised an eternal Kingdom, no like the Land of Canaan, the Kingdom of God. Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, says Jehovah, that I will cut a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah,
And the Lord says: Mat 26:28 For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
2Co 3:6 who also has made us able ministers of the new covenant; not of the letter, but of the spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit makes alive.
Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, He said to them, "Behold, days are coming, says the Lord, and I will make an end on the house of Israel and on the house of Judah; a new covenant shall be,
Heb 8:13 In that He says, A new covenant, He has made the first one old. Now that which decays and becomes old is ready to vanish away.
Act 2:18 And in those days I will pour out My Spirit upon My slaves and My slave women, and they shall prophesy.
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Let's stick to the topic -- the Abrahamic God of the Bible, and slavery.
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Old 10-05-2008, 05:56 PM
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Well, it is understandable that Ben tries to avoid the pain of knowing that God made a new and better covenant with those that accept it, promised an eternal Kingdom, no like the Land of Canaan, the Kingdom of God. Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, says Jehovah, that I will cut a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah,
And the Lord says: Mat 26:28 For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
2Co 3:6 who also has made us able ministers of the new covenant; not of the letter, but of the spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit makes alive.
Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, He said to them, "Behold, days are coming, says the Lord, and I will make an end on the house of Israel and on the house of Judah; a new covenant shall be,
Heb 8:13 In that He says, A new covenant, He has made the first one old. Now that which decays and becomes old is ready to vanish away.
Act 2:18 And in those days I will pour out My Spirit upon My slaves and My slave women, and they shall prophesy.

It's amazing what faith can do to the unlearnt. They read the lines but can't see the words. Jeremiah 31:31 - "...a New Covenant with the House of Israel and the House of Judah..." Then, their mouths say: "That's a covenant with Christians." Where the hell is the word "Christian" in Jeremiah 31:31?

Then, they go to the NT to say that God will make an end of the House of Judah with complete disregard to Jeremiah 31:35 that to make an end of Judah, God will have also to make an end of the sun and the moon, and of the stars.

I do rest my case!

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Old 10-26-2008, 11:43 PM
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When you read EX 21 there is some stuff about slavery and it kind of gives God a very bad name. A father can sell a daughter into slavery to pay a debt. A slave owner is punished if he stricks his slave and the slave dies shortly thereafter but if the slave lives a day or two then dies the slave owner in NOT punished. In the NT Jesus didn't say one word against slavery. Strange ideas here. arlan
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Who ever created it or made it slavery is...well...slavery
Well, now. Why didn't I think of that?

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Greetings!

IOV religion is progressive, and slavery is something that was once permitted but is now not!

It's clear, for example, that the Jewish and Christian scriptures permitted slavery.

Islam permitted it, but with restrictions.

And the Baha'i Faith prohibits it entirely.

So there is progress!

Best, :-)

Bruce
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Did God initiate slavery with an inspired curse [Gen 9:25-27] on Ham and approve the enslavement of Aliens in Lev. 25:44

which came first slavery or the books of Genesis and Leviticus?
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