God and slavery? - Page 3

Jehonadab · #21 09-29-2008, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Father Heathen

So at first God was imperfect and had made a mistake?

Slavery during bible times was often because a person could not afford to support himself and they sold themselves into slavery. Or becasue they were captured during a year. Whatever the case 1 John 5:19 tells us who is control of this world, God is allowing everything we see around us to happen to demonstrate to us all that we cannot live without following His direction.

kai · #22 09-29-2008, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeremy Mason

I disagree. Jesus never advocated slavery.

in a way i agree with Jeremy here sometimes people are not the best representatives of their own religions,

and if you are going blame god for slavery then theres not really anything to debate is there?

your honour the defendant has not appeared in court this morning.

Arlanbb · #23 09-30-2008, 03:14 AM

This has nothing to do with Christianty. It is God in the OT that endorsed slavery. arlan

Father Heathen · #24 09-30-2008, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Arlanbb

This has nothing to do with Christianty. It is God in the OT that endorsed slavery. arlan

So the NT God is a completely different god that killed and dethroned the OT God?

kai · #25 09-30-2008, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Father Heathen

So the NT God is a completely different god that killed and dethroned the OT God?

he is God, he can change his mind, he has several times, he wasnt at all happy with the NT so he even brought us the Quran

9-10ths_Penguin · #26 09-30-2008, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeremy Mason

I disagree. Jesus never advocated slavery.

There are plenty of things that Jesus never advocated (or that He specifically condemned, in some cases) that have managed to form large parts of Christian religion and teaching.

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Originally Posted by Father Heathen

So the NT God is a completely different god that killed and dethroned the OT God?

The Marcionites thought so.

herushura · #27 09-30-2008, 08:58 AM

ANU approved the Slavery of Humans, Aliens=Humans

BruceDLimber · #28 09-30-2008, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Father Heathen

So at first God was imperfect and had made a mistake?

Clearly not! The more so given that there's only one God in the first place, Who is perfect beyond measure!

Any limitations have to do with us, not with God!

And like it or not, Divine Revelation is progressive, and we're only given what we're ready for in each Age! For reasons I don't pretend to understand slavery was permitted in times past, but now humanity (and human civilization) have progressed to the point that it's no longer allowable.

We don't presume to second-guess God, and I trust you don't, either!

As various scriptures point out, "He doeth what He willeth, and none has the right to question Him."

That said, we're also totally sure of His Goodness and Beneficence, and trust Him both explicitly and implicitly!

Peace, :-)

Bruce

Arlanbb · #29 09-30-2008, 11:40 AM

FATHER HEATHEN ~ Your close to the truth on your statement. The whole big problem is that Humans wrote the bible and these are human thoughts about God so that is why they keep changing depending on who is writing about what he thinks God is or does or can do. If anyone thinks these ideas about God are really Gods thoughts etc. I have a bridge to sell them. arlan

Charity · #30 09-30-2008, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Arlanbb

FATHER HEATHEN ~ Your close to the truth on your statement. The whole big problem is that Humans wrote the bible and these are human thoughts about God so that is why they keep changing depending on who is writing about what he thinks God is or does or can do. If anyone thinks these ideas about God are really Gods thoughts etc. I have a bridge to sell them. arlan

OK Arlan where is the darned bridge?