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Old 09-27-2008, 09:49 PM
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I'm pretty sure though that he's talking about proof of christianity,
and not proof of god.

They are not the same thing.
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Old 09-27-2008, 09:50 PM
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He has not asked you to question him. He has asked you answer his question. It is a simple request.
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He has not asked you to question him. He has asked you answer his question. It is a simple request.
Can you answer lunamoth's question?
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What about the testimony of others?

"And now, after the many testimonies which have been given of him, this is the testimony, last of all, which we give of him: That he lives! For we saw him, even on the right hand of God; and we heard the voice bearing record that he is the Only Begotten of the Father—
"That by him, and through him, and of him, the worlds are and were created, and the inhabitants thereof are begotten sons and daughters unto God."

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The proof is: Flat Earth
Really? That is your proof?

Name me one major denomination of Christianity that espouses a flat earth?
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He has not asked you to question him. He has asked you answer his question. It is a simple request.
The best answer isn't always a statement. Sometimes it's better to ask a question that allows the first person to think and come to his/her own conclusion.
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Well why not try and explain that evidence to me?

And I was not calling you an idiot. At least I thought I wasn't. The people I was calling idiots are those who say they believe in something, when they have absolutely no evidence. I'm talking about the people who do not question their faith, who deny facts and who dont even look for evidence. I'm pretty sure it was you that said in another thread that you would not believe without sufficient evidence. So maybe you do have evidence. Like I said, please try to explain it to me. And sorry if I offend you, but in my opinion, if someone will think that something actually exists, without having any evidence/proof, then they are a complete and utter idiot.
Don't worry, I wasn't offended. I was trying to lighten things up.

The truth is, I don't argue or debate about whether God exists to any nonbeliever. I don't really know how. I used to be an agnostic until I was 17 years old, so you'd think I would know how. I also don't tell other faiths that they are wrong because I do not know if they are wrong. I wrote in another post a couple of weeks ago that the world used to be a "bigger" place since there was none of the modern technology that gets us to places faster and faster. I mean I can talk to someone on the other side of the world but 2,000 years ago there is no way I could have. Knowing that, I can reason that if God sent prophets to people at people at one, and another to a much farther away place. It would be strange for God to only talk to a small percentage of the world. But I am not sure of anything at all.

I believe in certain aspects of Evolution. I enjoy studying science and one of my favorite classes was Physical Anthropology.
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I'm pretty sure though that he's talking about proof of christianity,
and not proof of god.

They are not the same thing.

Finally, someone gets it. I would never try to talk about weather or not god exists. I dont think we will ever find the answer to that. Im talking about a "certain" god. This has always been my view on religion - There are hundreds of them and they are all equal in evidence. So it is impossible for me to give more credit to one of them. I have to have evidence to believe in something.

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Don't worry, I wasn't offended. I was trying to lighten things up.

The truth is, I don't argue or debate about whether God exists to any nonbeliever. I don't really know how. I used to be an agnostic until I was 17 years old, so you'd think I would know how. I also don't tell other faiths that they are wrong because I do not know if they are wrong. I wrote in another post a couple of weeks ago that the world used to be a "bigger" place since there was none of the modern technology that gets us to places faster and faster. I mean I can talk to someone on the other side of the world but 2,000 years ago there is no way I could have. Knowing that, I can reason that if God sent prophets to people at people at one, and another to a much farther away place. It would be strange for God to only talk to a small percentage of the world. But I am not sure of anything at all.

I believe in certain aspects of Evolution. I enjoy studying science and one of my favorite classes was Physical Anthropology.

I wish every Christian was like you. If they were, the world would be a much better place.
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Really? That is your proof?

Name me one major denomination of Christianity that espouses a flat earth
My argument was: If the bible is the infallible word of god, then the bible saying the earth is flat proves that it is fallible. So either it is the fallible word of god or not the word of god. Take your pick
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