Why do Christians go against this logic when it comes to religion?

[Guitar's Cry]

Who says people believe in God without evidence?

[Disciple of Christ Jesus]

The Bible is the inspired Word of God and thus The Guide to moral living for the devout and faithful. To believe this is to accept The Truth. To accept The Truth is to hold an open heart. To hold an open heart, you have to be courageous to stand up on principle. The Truth shall set you free! (John 8:35).

[Mister Emu]

Ill informed is irrelevant to the statement.

I would consider being informed on a topic as a large part of active thought, as opposed to accepting or disregarding a claim out of hand... It is highly possible I misunderstood what you meant...

We are talking about predisposition of the human brain granting credibility, or a certain level of validity, to any statement prior to any conscious attempt to accept or reject the validity of such a statement.

From what I have seen, though I am by no means an authority on such a matter, it is more a matter of the person making the statement given a certain level of credibility that flows to all of their statements...

[Sententia]

Originally Posted by Disciple of Christ Jesus

The Bible is the inspired Word of God

In your opinion. This is not fact. What god? Ra? Zeus? Set? Thor? Odin? Krishna? You?

Bible... what is it? Who wrote the peices of it? Who editted it? Which bible even?

Originally Posted by Disciple of Christ Jesus

The Guide to moral living for the devout and faithful.

Outrageous lies. What morals are derived from the bible? Those who claim morality only under fear of punishment can not claim to be moral. Can they? What say you? Are the two connected?

Do not confuse your personal beliefs with an imposition or requirement on others. There is no proof for what you believe but you are in a free country and free to
believe what you need too. Morality does not have its basis in religion. It does not require or need religion. Religion can minupulate and be used to justify anything... The burning of witches, hanging of blasphemers or the carving out of their tongues... just think historically what religion has done. Has the word of religion fundamentally changed since people were using it for these nefarious purposes?

What is different?

I'm not arguing religion is fundamentally evil... its obviously not... neither is a sword or a gun evil... but religion likes swords and guns is just a tool... A gun can stop a charging rhino or kill your loved ones... is the gun evil?

My wife told me once that my car crashed into the curb... Did the car do it?

What some people regard as evidence is ludicrous. People claim god speaks to them... or the saw Mother theresa in toast or the stump of a tree and thus god exists... the mind sees what you condition it to see.... Ask any detective who deals with witnesses...

Now there are numerous god faqs out there for you to reference but humor aside its just supersticious mumbo jumbo...

In my country, the US of A... most people have no ability to filter truth from fiction... if it sounds like something they have been conditioned to believe they believe it and thats really all they need. If it sounds like something that goes against their conditioned beliefs they resist it.

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[gnomon]

Originally Posted by Mister Emu

I would consider being informed on a topic as a large part of active thought, as opposed to accepting or disregarding a claim out of hand... It is highly possible I misunderstood what you meant...


From what I have seen, though I am by no means an authority on such a matter, it is more a matter of the person making the statement given a certain level of credibility that flows to all of their statements...

Addressing your latter statement-----that very well may be true. I have been trying in vain to find this study discussing how people grant a certain level of validity to information just through the process of the brain discerning the meaning of the statement. Unfortunately I have been unable to find it. I don't know how it applies to information taken in which we already have experience, or in other words, already developed an informed opinion. I know when someone tells me about their belief in aliens I do not grant such a concept a truth value in that the aliens exist because it's something I've read too much about and talked about. I wish I could find that study.

[Sententia]

Originally Posted by gnomon

Addressing your latter statement-----that very well may be true. I have been trying in vain to find this study discussing how people grant a certain level of validity to information just through the process of the brain discerning the meaning of the statement. Unfortunately I have been unable to find it. I don't know how it applies to information taken in which we already have experience, or in other words, already developed an informed opinion. I know when someone tells me about their belief in aliens I do not grant such a concept a truth value in that the aliens exist because it's something I've read too much about and talked about. I wish I could find that study.

As a place to start... They said on the news recently that months ago the majority of the country, usa, has already decided who their going to vote for. Only a very small percentage is said to change their mind based on any contridicting information or debates.

Im not sure what their source was... Gallup perhaps? I know Obama or McCain it doesnt seem to matter. People know who their gonna vote for and really dont know anything about either candidate. Someone told me today their voting McCain because hes pro choice, religious tolerant and is running a campaign based on change and thats what our country needs... change.

[gnomon]

Originally Posted by BalanceFx

As a place to start... They said on the news recently that months ago the majority of the country, usa, has already decided who their going to vote for. Only a very small percentage is said to change their mind based on any contridicting information or debates.

Im not sure what their source was... Gallup perhaps? I know Obama or McCain it doesnt seem to matter. People know who their gonna vote for and really dont know anything about either candidate. Someone told me today their voting McCain because hes pro choice, religious tolerant and is running a campaign based on change and thats what our country needs... change.

First, I've already lost track of what this thread is about generally speaking.

Second, I also hear about the polls stating that most people are already decided in their vote. I think a lot of that is founded on the idea that many if not most people will only vote a certain party line. I do not have any evidence supporting the truth of that statement. It seems as though the debates and the post-primary campaigning are merely a formality for some. It's the party rather than the individual that matters.