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Old 09-22-2008, 01:54 PM
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Default All worthy Gods must be able to produce perfect souls.

All worthy Gods must be able to produce perfect souls.

In a world where god cannot create perfect souls and natures, like many believe is here, why do so many follow the God of their choice?

To some, all these Gods are losers who cannot maintain their level of perfection. Back sliding goods all.

I am sometimes criticized for believing in a God that has not lost His initial perfection that must persist throughout all times.
I must recognize the perfection of all around me if I am to be able to maintain my belief in the reality of this God. I do. Most do not.

My God embraces all that He has created, including all Bibles. They all have merit as works of mans expression of what the philosophy is of their God or Gods is. All political philosophies try to do the same thing.
God‘s name than then be seen as Liberal party, Democratic party, Communist party, ad infinitum.
As well as Jesus and Jehovah and all others in their fine company.

If any God is the true God then, by definition, those who wait for mister fix it , cannot be waiting for the true God.

Strange.

People have forgotten that the first God was a man.

For God to be in our image and not some other, means that He wears His true image. He would not start a relationship with man based on deception.

We are animals. We were less civilized animals at some point in time.
In the animal world, the God of each animal is one of their own.

The God of ants is an ant.
The God of lions is a lion.
The God of men, must be a man.

Or His -everlasting- ?- consciousness.



Whether you follow a God or a Political philosophy, do not take it so seriously.
Bibles are not meant to be taken seriously. This is known from the fact that talking snakes and other novel ideas are introduced in it’s beginning. Hence the introduction of God as the Word also early in scripture.

As to other miracles. If God wanted us to believe that reality can somehow have miracles, then He would have left one here, other than all that we see, for us to ponder and wonder where He went wrong in the first place if we are not perfect.
If there is miracles then we are the best of the miracle stocks.

This is where we kick in the, God helps those who help themselves, reference.
The first God was a man first.

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Old 09-22-2008, 02:22 PM
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Why do you feel a God is necessary, or needed?
I do not know if God is necessary or not. Depends on your interpretation of the word God. Many live and die without a God.

By my definition of the word God above, you know that their God is a ploitical named God.

As to needed, perhaps. If we are speaking of a Man/God, yes.
If a God/Man hybrid, no.

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Beautiful words... yet somehow I think you're forgetting that the host of heaven is not just made of gods and angels.
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Beautiful words... yet somehow I think you're forgetting that the host of heaven is not just made of gods and angels.
No angels.

Just God and perfect souls. All souls ever created.

If not just God and angels as you say, then who or what else is up there?

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We all have to decide what is or isn't worthy of worship. What I want to know is who defines perfection, especially for a soul.
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Though shall place no one above me.
Sound familiar.

In a cosmic counciousness began by the first dead truly human soul, our God, no one is above God but all He speaks has been a concensus from the heavenly hosts of souls. We all, in time, will contribute.

No choice.

God is an evolving entity.

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We all have to decide what is or isn't worthy of worship. What I want to know is who defines perfection, especially for a soul.
God would but we cannot know exactly what that standard is because God and we continue to evolve.

This is not to say that some of God's attributes cannot be known. Whatever attribute we decide upon must be brought to it's highest and it's lowest value so that God can continue to represent the epitome of all things.

The God of love can then still send a flood to kill damed near all of us.

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No angels.

Just God and perfect souls. All souls ever created.

If not just God and angels as you say, then who or what else is up there?

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I don't intend to denounce your beliefs, as I can tell they differ from mainstream Abrahamic beliefs. (and, to be honest, I rather like your beliefs)

However, so as to answer the question, here's a list of the so-called Celestial Hierarchy, descending.

God-
The Big Guy himself.
Seraphim- The fiery serpentine entities closest to the throne of God; their only purpose is to sing hymns and praises to God.
Cherubim- The beings who possess all of God's knowledge. Lucifer was a Cherub. It was also a Cherub who guarded the entrance to the Garden after Adam and Eve were expelled.
Orphanim- Also called the Thrones, they are meant to be the charioteers of God.
Dominations- They rule over all the heavens, ordering God's law.
Virtues- They carry out the orders of the Dominations.
Powers- Maintainers of the borders of heaven and earth.
Principalities- Protectors of nations and cities.
Archangels- Ones who carry out the most important missions to men. (Michael, Gabriel)
Angels- Messengers of God's Word to men. ("angel" literally means "news" or "message")

Genesis also speaks of the Nephilim, or Watchers, many of whom lusted after human women, which leads me to believe that these are the gods of old. So there are likely more than the ones I have listed above.

I have a feeling that mythologically speaking, heaven is as diverse in culture as earth.
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