The one true faith! (beliefs, hell, agnostic, God, religions)

[chuck010342]

Originally Posted by jewscout

And you do Chuck?

No no no no no Not me but my master, who revealed this to me

[jewscout]

QUOTE=chuck010342]If you don't know what God wants from us then why do you call him G-d?[/quote]
Out of respect for His Name. Deut. 12:3

We use logic and reason to determine which faith we follow.

But logic and reason has led me away from christianity

A single partice is not the same as a philosophy or a religion so thats a false analogy.

But if G-d can create a particle that exists in multiple places and goes against our own logic and reasoning how can we as mere humans presume to know which faith is the "true faith" of mankind

When your confused and don't know what to do or whom to trust I think of this. I think of Matthew 18:3
And he said: “I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven."
If you have to trust somebody I suggest you trust the one who did more for mankind then any other man.

When i'm confused it turn to someone who's an expert in the field i find confusion in. If my car's messed up i go to a mechanic, if i have a question about judaism i ask my rabbi.
Though i ask HaShem for aid and wisdom in my life i take the initiative and try to work things out as much as I can at the same time.

My question was really to get the opinions of everyone on the forum on my analogy, since they are opinions i value.

[chuck010342]

Originally Posted by jewscout

Out of respect for His Name. Deut. 12:3

and why do you follow laws that are no longerbinding?

Originally Posted by jewscout

But logic and reason has led me away from christianity

they don't understand christianity.

Originally Posted by jewscout

But if G-d can create a particle that exists in multiple places and goes against our own logic and reasoning how can we as mere humans presume to know which faith is the "true faith" of mankind

I don't really understand what you are saying here.

Originally Posted by jewscout

When i'm confused it turn to someone who's an expert in the field i find confusion in. If my car's messed up i go to a mechanic, if i have a question about judaism i ask my rabbi.

I do the exact same thing.

Originally Posted by jewscout

Though i ask HaShem for aid and wisdom in my life i take the initiative and try to work things out as much as I can at the same time.

who is HaShem and why ask him? or why follow your own initiative?

Originally Posted by jewscout

My question was really to get the opinions of everyone on the forum on my analogy, since they are opinions i value.

You seek opinion rather then truth? If that is the case then you and me should never speak agian.

[linwood]

Either there is a purpose to life or there is not. In each case, there can be only one correct answer. One is true, and the other is false; both cannot be true.

So I would have to argue from the laws of logic.

One such law is the law of non-countradiction.

How can two faiths be true if they countradict eachother?

You`re entirely ignoring the probability that they are both wrong.

[chuck010342]

that is also a probability, but with regards to Jewscout I don't think its applicable

[robtex]

Jewscout, you do realize that the Jews, believe that the Torah is the word of God handed to them by Moses and thus is the one true faith for Jews who have covent with God to perserve the way of the Torah. In Judism others outside of Judism can believe what they wish but the Jews see their as the covent with God which could be seen as the one "true" faith.

[jewscout]

Originally Posted by robtex

Jewscout, you do realize that the Jews, believe that the Torah is the word of God handed to them by Moses and thus is the one true faith for Jews who have covent with God to perserve the way of the Torah. In Judism others outside of Judism can believe what they wish but the Jews see their as the covent with God which could be seen as the one "true" faith.

yeah i realize that robtex. But as always I like to buck the system and say that, tho Judaism works for me, it doesn't work for everyone, and that's ok.
It all goes back to my crayon box theory on faith and the Divine.

[jewscout]

Originally Posted by chuck010342

and why do you follow laws that are no longerbinding?

because to the Jews they still are

Originally Posted by chuck010342

they don't understand christianity.

Don't you mean I don't understand christianity even tho you couldn't be further from the truth.

Originally Posted by chuck010342

I don't really understand what you are saying here.

What i'm saying is if G-d can do something that goes against our common sense, as in one particle existing in multiple places at once, then how can we be so vane as to say we know the one "true faith". Were any of us there when many of our religions were first founded or their docterine first canonized? I'll go out on a limb and say no.

Originally Posted by chuck010342

who is HaShem and why ask him? or why follow your own initiative?

HaShem is a name of G-d, hebrew for "the name" it also signifies the merciful side of G-d and why wouldn't i ask for a little Divine guidance in times of trouble. I follow my own initiative because, tho all things happen through His will i know a miracle will not fall from the sky for me, i have to get out there and be the miracle

Originally Posted by chuck010342

You seek opinion rather then truth? If that is the case then you and me should never speak agian.

i don't see why you and I should not speak again chuck, i sought everyone's opinions of my use of the cat in a box theory on this arguement.

[chuck010342]

Originally Posted by jewscout

because to the Jews they still are

how can they when scripture clearly teaches otherwise?

[quote=jewscout]Don't you mean I don't understand christianity even tho you couldn't be further from the truth.

What I am saying is that certain people in the world today don't understand what true christianity is about, like Ghandi did. You might be one or you might not be one I don't know yet.

Originally Posted by jewscout

What i'm saying is if G-d can do something that goes against our common sense, as in one particle existing in multiple places at once, then how can we be so vane as to say we know the one "true faith".

We as humans do not, however we do know that which does know the one true faith.

Originally Posted by jewscout

Were any of us there when many of our religions were first founded or their docterine first canonized? I'll go out on a limb and say no.

and I will say your right non of us were with some exeptions such as humanism. But there was something there.

Originally Posted by jewscout

HaShem is a name of G-d, hebrew for "the name" it also signifies the merciful side of G-d and why wouldn't i ask for a little Divine guidance in times of trouble.

Quite right you ask the right person but that which you call on has already communicated to you in the form of a person (because you know hebrew) his name is Yoshua ben Josheph

Originally Posted by jewscout

I follow my own initiative because, tho all things happen through His will i know a miracle will not fall from the sky for me, i have to get out there and be the miracle

you follow your own initiative? Why? what makes you so great that you should follow yourself?

Originally Posted by jewscout

i don't see why you and I should not speak again chuck, i sought everyone's opinions of my use of the cat in a box theory on this arguement.

The reason is because of what we want. You want opinion, I want Truth.

[Feathers in Hair]

Originally Posted by chuck010342

you follow your own initiative? Why? what makes you so great that you should follow yourself?

Simply being a human being who is thinking their own thoughts makes them great.
I would not deride that for all the riches in the world.

Originally Posted by chuck010342

The reason is because of what we want. You want opinion, I want Truth.

You want your own interpretation of truth. You are not willing to accept that there may be other truths.