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Old 08-11-2008, 09:58 AM
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Eve, if God were loving, would have been the mother of Jesus.

The Bible would have us believe that a loving God sent a genocidal flood to wipe out most of mankind and then after turning evil again, sent Jesus to forgive.
As a loving parent I forgive completely and immediately.
God, as the epitome of a parent would do the same.
This would mean that Eve would have born Jesus and received forgiveness at that point. The justice of God is swift.
Eve was the sinner and the one in need of forgiveness, No chastisement of many innocents is then required by God and He does not need to break His own law and commandment of not killing humans.
Needless to say that any conflagration between God, as most think of Him, and even modern man, would not be a fair and just encounter, therefore the flood myth is just that, a myth, and is not what a true God would do.
Logically and spiritually, the Bible cannot be seen as advocating genocide. Even if it says God used it.
To think that God would sow many souls and gain only 8 out of millions is to think that God is a poor farmer at best and perhaps crazy to try such a venture again.
We must all pay for our own sins Eve, no different.
To forgive Her is to save God’s reputation as a genocidal maniac.
This makes Eve the most likely person to be the Mother of Jesus and allows for the birth of the trinity.
If not, then how else to explain the Trinity. In the time of Marie, Jesus was yet to be born and could not then be part of the Trinity.

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Eve was the sinner and the one in need of forgiveness
How can she have willfully sinned if at the time she didn't comprehend the difference between good and evil?
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To forgive Her is to save God’s reputation as a genocidal maniac.
The sky is falling!!!

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(I think we're lucky, anyway. I'll get back to you after I've had more coffee).
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This makes Eve the most likely person to be the Mother of Jesus ...
Nonsense. She couldn't even speak Jewish.
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Old 08-11-2008, 10:26 AM
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How can she have willfully sinned if at the time she didn't comprehend the difference between good and evil?
A catch 22.

I assume here thast God did not punish Eve for nothing.

I do not read the Bible literally and read Eve more as starting us up on the road to learning our moral sense. To have a moral sense, you must have the knowledge of good and evil. God was good enought to supply it. Eve was smart enought to taste of it.

Do you forgive quickly or let your children suffer before giving your forgiveness?

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Needless to say that any conflagration between God, as most think of Him, and even modern man, would not be a fair and just encounter, therefore the flood myth is just that, a myth, and is not what a true God would do.
While I respect that you've arrived at the idea that the Bible is myth, I'd agree for different reasons and by different reasoning. A "myth" in this context should not be synonymous with a "falsehood", and poking holes in the stories doesn't serve to demonstrate anything useful (except, perhaps, if it was a literary critique of the plot). Some suggest that one myth is present in many of the stories: Genesis, Adam and Eve, Noah's Flood, Jonah and the Whale. The story's myths harp on similar themes of awakening consciousness.
EDIT: make that ...some parts of the Bible...

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This makes Eve the most likely person to be the Mother of Jesus and allows for the birth of the trinity.
Should we rewrite it, then?
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Every molecule in the Universe belongs to God, and He can do whatever He wants with them. I figure we're lucky He let us borrow the ones we're using in the first place.

(I think we're lucky, anyway. I'll get back to you after I've had more coffee).
God has yet to claim ownership of anything.

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While I respect that you've arrived at the idea that the Bible is myth, I'd agree for different reasons and by different reasoning. A "myth" in this context should not be synonymous with a "falsehood", and poking holes in the stories doesn't serve to demonstrate anything useful (except, perhaps, if it was a literary critique of the plot). Some suggest that one myth is present in many of the stories: Genesis, Adam and Eve, Noah's Flood, Jonah and the Whale. The story's myths harp on similar themes of awakening consciousness.


Should we rewrite it, then?
The Bible was always meant to be revised and argued over.
This is the nature of religion.
This is also the reason that when you read it, it contradicts itself.

IE.
It talks of a loving God who turns around and kills millions.

Christ and the Antichrist speak to us from it's pages.
It contains the tree of both good and evil.
It is to us ro recognize who is speaking.

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