Watchtower Bible & Tract Society (testimony, gospel, Jehovah, Revelation)

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Then there was the account when the person fell out of a window during a talk, Eutychus. From the third story this person falls to their death. The apostle Paul runs downstairs and raises him from the dead. One of the anointed.

Then we have Tabitha (Dorcas) dead. Raised from the dead by one of the anointed. Peter in fact.

Take Acts 5:12 - 5:16 for example. Many of the people in the city became believers because the anointed apostles were performing all sorts of miracles in front of them all just as they had been commanded to do so.

Which goes back to the main reason God gave the anointed the ability to perform miracles. It was a sign in the Old Testament and New Testament and proof that the person who said they were sent by God did so because they had the 'power' to prove it.


Like Stephen. Acts 6:5 These words pleased the whole multitude. They chose Stephen, a man full of faith and of the Holy Spirit, Philip, Prochorus, Nicanor, Timon, Parmenas, and Nicolaus, a proselyte of Antioch; 6:6 whom they set before the apostles. When they had prayed, they laid their hands on them. 6:7 The word of God increased and the number of the disciples multiplied in Jerusalem exceedingly. A great company of the priests were obedient to the faith.

6:8 Stephen, full of faith and power, performed great wonders and signs among the people.


Or Jesus. Matthew 4:23 Jesus went about in all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the Good News of the Kingdom, and healing every disease and every sickness among the people. 4:24 The report about him went out into all Syria. They brought to him all who were sick, afflicted with various diseases and torments, possessed with demons, epileptics, and paralytics; and he healed them. 4:25 Great multitudes from Galilee, Decapolis, Jerusalem, Judea and from beyond the Jordan followed him.


Or Paul again. Acts 16:16 It happened, as we were going to prayer, that a certain girl having a spirit of divination met us, who brought her masters much gain by fortune telling. 16:17 Following Paul and us, she cried out, “These men are servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to us a way of salvation!” 16:18 She was doing this for many days.
But Paul, becoming greatly annoyed, turned and said to the spirit, “I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her!” It came out that very hour.

The real anointed man of God is in no need of a physician or psychiatrist because God's Holy Spirit is the most powerful force in the Universe.

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Originally Posted by Master Vigil

Quoting scriptures does not validate if scriptures really happened. Is there any proof other than the "stories" written in the bible that such miracles existed? If not, than I suspect it all to be myth. You say actions speak for themselves, but all you have given me is stories of actions that may or may not h ave happened. There is no proof in your post, only opinion. Now, I want your opinion without quoting scripture. What proof is there that thos miracles did indeed happen? And what proof would there be that anyone now could perform miracles, even if back then, they were just stories?

Validate? Well, JW's and the Governing Body of JW's believe the scriptures to be fact. The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses, not to be confused with the people that make up the congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses, believe that their actions are the direct result of being anointed by God just like those in the bible. According to last count taken at the last observance of the death of Christ, or the Memorial, Lord's Supper, etc., the count of anointed Jehovah's Witnesses is 8570.

I am simply showing examples of what anointed persons in the scriptures did to prove what they were, who sent them and who was really in charge.

I make no pretenses that what I am talking about here is actual fact pertaining to the real world where the bible is concerned. It's just the source that the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society use implicitly as the primary guide to their religious beliefs. The bible contains many accounts of this and that, but so far, no one on earth has been able to prove that all that's in there is real. I do know what the scriptures say as to the definition of classes of persons. I.E. Christian, Anointed, Prophet, Chosen One, Messiah, God, etc.

Originally Posted by Master Vigil

Or perhaps the anointed ones are the ones who ARE "expelling demons" nowadays. Psychologists and psychiatrists. Perhaps because of this proof of effective "expelling of demons" we should all drop the bible and pick up psychology book. Or would you not accept it because the miracles done in science do not coincide with your books stories?

So far to date no one on earth has been able to prove to anyone else that these so-called demons really exist. Same goes for Satan, which isn't his name. I have seen however some paranormal documents that stated that they, the scientists, had proof that demons do exist and can possess people.

As for a comparison of science/medical data for curing versus bible data, I have no idea whether the compiled data would actually show that medical science is better than God's Holy Spirit in the hands of his anointed, where ever they are.

But..... if medical science could cure like they did in the bible, then no one would really bother with the bible at all because man has proven they don't need God.

If you do have that data, maybe you should message WitnessofJah with it or post a question on his "Ask about Jehovah's Witnesses" thread for a reponse.

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==Start Quote by WitnessofJah==
Matthew 24:45: "Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time? Happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so. Truly I say to YOU, He will appoint him over all his belongings."

Is the faithful and discreet of Jehoavh's Witnesses giving us our food (spiritual food) like the above verses mention? Yes. Up to now, over 15,000,000,000 peices of literature had been given to mankind to proclaim the coming of God's Kingdom and also addressing world events in a timely manner.
==End Quote by WitnessofJah==

Book Publishing: Statistics
(http://www.publishingcentral.com/sub...ing+statistics)

Para Publishing Web Site: Statistics on Books & Publishing
(http://www.parapublishing.com/getpag...ics/index.html)

International Publishers Association - Annual Book Title Production
(http://www.ipa-uie.org/statistics/annual_book_prod.html)

Finnish Book Publisher's Association
(http://www.skyry.net/sky/english_k.htm)

Finnish Periodical Publisher's Association
(http://www.aikakauslehdet.fi/index.asp?site=english)

Finnish Newspaper Association
(http://www.sanomalehdet.fi/en/tietoa/index.shtml)

booksinprint.com: Home
(http://www.booksinprint.com/bip/)

All the links above show just how many published books, magazines, etc., there are in the world. Does the fact that they print up books and magazines mean that they are all anointed?

Jehovah's Witnesses: Membership and Publishing Statistics
(http://www.jw-media.org/people/statistics.htm)

Finding Statistics, Guide to Library Research
(http://www.lib.duke.edu/libguide/fi_stats.htm)

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Originally Posted by WitnessofJah

Who is your candidate for the correct faith? You seem to speak with so much conviction that you must have some kind of inclination to who Jesus disciples today are. A poll in a religious sub-forum is not going to answer your question.


Good point - at least you agree that a few will find the truth...so why did you do a calculation to how long it would take JW to convert the entire planet (not exactly a few)?

According to Jesus parable at Luke 8:4-15, the few should be one quarter of the planet after everyone on earth is told and converted to either the good side or the bad side.

The Watchtower Bible & Tract Society have only 1/1000 of the earth's population in 100 years through the means they have used. Miracles moved more people and was a much better way to show that the people who said they were God's messengers were really so.

Everyone can do the math.

Few are the ones finding it, but that few should be one quarter of 6.5 billion.