God and the Ego

[Jayhawker Soule]

Originally Posted by Darkness

Is God simply a manifestation of our own egos? Were the Gods of Old created from man's highest ideals and expressions of their deepest thoughts?

Great post - so long as we keep in mind that the two questions do not necessarily have anything to with one another.

[Random]

Confused thinking would result in the conclusion that "God" and "Ego" are one and the same, certainly...think about it. Your ego is the least godlike thing about you, yet through attachment and form you can project all the notions of Self into any sphere of power that exists in your mind, indefinitely. Yet it is not, cannot be, real in the sense that you want it to be; never is, and never will be. God and Ego share a symbolic relationship. Desire epitomizes both. Wake up to who you really are, and the firmament, so solid and unshakeable before, dissolves like ephemeral clouds in a fantasy paradise.

[Father Heathen]

Originally Posted by oldcajun

If the answers are yes, then our existence is an accident, therefore making our every thought accidental and without meaning or purpose. Truth, falsehood, peace, love and war all have the same value. Our thoughts are a useless and vain movement of atoms.

You don't need some silly invisible magic man in the sky in order for things to have value. We assign value to things using our own logic and innate compassion. It's all shaped by action and reaction, cause and effect, etc.

[Darkness]

Originally Posted by idea

Left to his own devices I think man would create a God who supported drugs sex and rock-n-roll J That God goes against what most of mankind would like to do is evidence that He was not created by man.

This would then imply that God is the source of all "authoritarian" religions, even Buddhism which does not believe in a God.

Originally Posted by oldcajun

If the answers are yes, then our existence is an accident, therefore making our every thought accidental and without meaning or purpose. Truth, falsehood, peace, love and war all have the same value. Our thoughts are a useless and vain movement of atoms.

So, in essence, you are saying that the only thing making a flower beautiful, a girl's smile heartwarming is that they were all created by an Old Man in the Sky? I just have one question. If God was not created or purposed into being, then isn't He also a God without purpose? Think about it.

Originally Posted by Phasmid

So, if you're referring to the Christian God in your question, I suppose God is a manifestation of our egos, but paradoxically, it is a manifestation of a desire to rid ourselves of our egos...

Christianity is a manifestation of the superego when its followers serve others. Christianity is a manifestation of the id when they demand everyone else believes as they do.

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The terms id, ego, and superego must be defined to eliminate confusion.

• The Id -- the selfish part of our psyche.
• The Superego -- the altruistic part of our psyche
• The Ego -- can be used in two ways. The Freudian Ego is the mediator between the Id and the Superego. "It could mean one’s self-esteem; an inflated sense of self-worth; or in philosophical terms, one’s self."

[DallasApple]

I believe ...I am a little peice of God...I am his daughter...Like all ya'll..

There is no "ego"..

We are in this together..

We all thirst..We all hunger..

We are all God..The culmination(sorry) of us...Is God..

WE are good and evil...

Love

Dallas

[Jayhawker Soule]

Originally Posted by Darkness

Christianity is a manifestation of the superego when its followers serve others. Christianity is a manifestation of the id when they demand everyone else believes as they do.

And the above is a manifestation of pedantic ego and far from compelling. Rather, it brilliantly demonstrates the principle that a little knowledge is little indeed.

[Yid613]

Ego is the opposite of G-d.

If one believes in an Omnipresent and Omnipotent G-d then all creation is just a reveled manifestation of G-dlyness. In a sense we do not really exist as independent beings, all is one. It is just our ego saying I’m an independent. In its extreme form this is Atheism that says G-d does not exist.

[Jayhawker Soule]

Originally Posted by Yid613

If one believes in an Omnipresent and Omnipotent G-d then all creation is just a reveled manifestation of G-dlyness.

Unless, of course, G-d is just the iconification of an evolving conceptualization of G-dliness.