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Old 07-15-2008, 01:15 PM
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I'm not rejecting science. I am simply asserting there is a need for a supreme conciousness in order to cause things to move from the beginning.

stating that if something sits for long enough "somethign will happen" is impossible unless there is an oustide force, which is entirely plausible but that requires that the outside force be active, so what caused the force to act in the first place?
They're called quantum fluctuations, I don't understand why they happen, but they don't require a brain in order to do what they do.

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The only rational explanation is intelligent design.
I'll yield that ID is rational when you can give me a rational and logical answer for what created God in order for God to then create the universe.

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It's kind of like... what came first? the chicken or the egg? Without an action, there can be no reaction.
The answer is the egg. Whatever laid the egg lacked some attribute of "chickeniness" that its offspring had.
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Old 07-15-2008, 05:27 PM
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Old 07-16-2008, 12:33 PM
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I'm not rejecting science. I am simply asserting there is a need for a supreme conciousness in order to cause things to move from the beginning.
Quentin Smith explains in this paper why your assertion is flawed.
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