Immorality in the Book of Mormon

[DeepShadow]

Free agency is internal, not external. I can take away the fork and block the outlet, to use BalanceFX's example, but none of this interferes with the child's internal self-will.

But what happens when my children grow up and decide they know better? They go away to college and think that forks and outlets would be fun to play with? We have the power to throw God out of our lives, and the consequences of that can have collateral damage.

[BalanceFx]

Originally Posted by DeepShadow

Free agency is internal, not external. I can take away the fork and block the outlet, to use BalanceFX's example, but none of this interferes with the child's internal self-will.

But what happens when my children grow up and decide they know better? They go away to college and think that forks and outlets would be fun to play with? We have the power to throw God out of our lives, and the consequences of that can have collateral damage.

But I didnt invalidate my sons free will and justify it with because I said so. I explained it when he got older at length. He has science kits all over the place and has built motion sensors and RC cars. (Even a solar propellar car)

When he decides for himself - he will be able to do so with real examples of what exists.

And the throwing of gods out of one life... That makes a presupposition that god was ever there in the first place and is irrelavant to the point your arguing.

If I as a parent have no problem violating free agency of my children until they know for themselves and can make their own decisions why doesnt god do the same. My motivation is out of love.

You said he can prevent wars but he hasnt prevented them all, but he cant affect free agency. Why? And where in the bible or the BoM does it say that god cant violate free agency?

[BalanceFx]

Originally Posted by DisneyMan

And will you make sure their entire lives that they won't make any mistakes?

• First I am incapable of making sure.
• Second I will not be here for their entire lives. (Hopefully right?)
• Third No, mistakes are the fastest way to learn the solution, your own solution which may be quite different. (Obviously some mistakes dont want to make. Outlets and forks is one of those)
• Fourth, Because I said So, is not a valid justification in my house for me or mom.