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06-26-2008, 05:31 PM
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Are you free?
I am a Christian. I follow the advice of the Psalmist who said: "O give thanks unto the Lord, for he is good, for his mercy endureth for ever." I have a promise from God of eternal life. I am free from death and hell. I do not have to pray, I do not have to go to church, I don't have to tell you that this freedom is freely offered, I am free to though. So many other religious and moral people work hard day and night for some assurance from God. They pray for hours, they go on long fasts and pilgramages. They beat themselves to atone for sins. But the prophets say "he was wounded for our iniquities, and bruised for our transgressions. The chastisment of our peace was upon him." And for those who worked so hard for salvations with every human effort and wisdom he gave a positive message. "Come unto me all ye that heavy laden and I will give you rest." I would like to tell all those working so hard for salvation, "don't do the work that Jesus has already done for you. Rest in his salvation." If you don't you will spend the rest of your life working for an unreachable standard and have no freedom.
Warning: this link has graphic content! (Don't try to do what Christ has already done for you!!!!!!!)
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06-26-2008, 06:39 PM
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some people are crazy and some people just don't have better things to do, hope for there sake there crazy
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I do not give you the answer, i give you the tools to find the answer yourself Are you changing who you are, or are you changing the world?
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#3
06-26-2008, 06:46 PM
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I'm guessing you mean the people in the photo? (Just one example.) The photo is an extreme example in a sense, it seems pretty painful. But there are many people who struggle internally as well trying to earn redemption, overall even what these people hitting themselves are looking for is internal.
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… let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset [us], and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
Last edited by Sonic247; 06-26-2008 at 07:00 PM.
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06-27-2008, 12:20 AM
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I can never have that which I desire above all else: true freedom. No god can give it to me; even Yeshua's promise of Eternal Life is a chain, the chain that is Life. I wish to be free of Life, Death, all that is physical, spiritual, or anything that is a chain, which includes Death, by the way, for those of you who might be afraid I might try to kill myself to be "free"; death is a chain as well.
Even the gods are bound by their promises to mankind, so even YHWH is not free, bound by his pact with the Jews. He does not want to break this pact, I know, so it is a chain he wears gladly, but a chain nonetheless. Only the One is truly free. And it is only One.
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We've heard the rules you need to know to make that social climb, but we'd rather spend our energy on having a good time!     -The Warner brothers (and the Warner sister)
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06-27-2008, 01:13 AM
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Well, the hindu here in malaysia (where i currently live) have sort of festival where they do the same excact thing. That makes me wonder where those guys got this method from?
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06-27-2008, 08:12 AM
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I'm not free. Just really cheap.
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Can't believe how strange it is to be anything at all....
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06-27-2008, 02:56 PM
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Are you truly free? Or are you bound by the conditions set upon you by society? To be completely free, mustn't you rid yourself of the chains set upon your neck by the people of "authority"? I am not speaking of being outwardly free, but inwardly free. If your mind is filled with ideas imposed by society and the religious dogmas taught throughout the ages, are you free?
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"A man may be born, but in order to be born he must first die, and in order to die he must first awake." ~G.I. Gurdjieff~
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06-27-2008, 05:22 PM
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The thing that turned me off from Christianity in the first place was that I couldn't live with somebody else saving me. That was a debt I didn't want on my shoulders. I'll save myself, thank you very much.
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Blessed be the coruscating plasma of the engine room, Spiritus Machina protect us from thy burning doom. Harness unto our will the power of light, Let conduit and coil work alright. -Catechism of the Engin-Seer
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06-27-2008, 05:48 PM
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"Atheism is a non-prophet organization" George Carlin
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06-27-2008, 07:52 PM
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