Why I think a lot of the Bible is False

[Scott1]

Originally Posted by Autodidact

So you're saying that God, as described in the OT, did not kill every human being on earth except one family? Did not kill every first-born child in Egypt? Did not command his followers to commit genocide, repeatedly, being sure to kill all the babies?

I certainly don't think so... I don't believe these fables are meant to be taken literally.

[Riverwolf]

Originally Posted by sandy whitelinger

This makes absolutely no sense. God has commited no crimes.

Look directly and too long into the light, and you go blind. You might as well then be in the darkness.

[Riverwolf]

Originally Posted by Autodidact

So you're saying that God, as described in the OT, did not kill every human being on earth except one family? Did not kill every first-born child in Egypt? Did not command his followers to commit genocide, repeatedly, being sure to kill all the babies?

The killing of the firstborn was justice, as the Egyptians had also killed all the Hebrew male babies. The eye-for-an-eye thing that was prominent in the Hebrew culture at the time. (doesn't mean I like or agree with it any more than you do. But what would you want to do if you ruled over a land and someone enslaved your people and killed all their male children?)

I don't believe Yeh'vah commanded the slaughtering of anybody; if he wanted people to die, he would have killed them himself, as he did in Genesis. I have a feeling that if the Abrahamic faiths are true, the only part of the Old Testament that was meant to be "God-revealed" is the Torah. Everything else was completely written and compiled by men.

[Autodidact]

Originally Posted by Scott1

I certainly don't think so... I don't believe these fables are meant to be taken literally.

And how do you decide which ones to believe and which ones not?

[Autodidact]

Originally Posted by Riverwolf

The killing of the firstborn was justice, as the Egyptians had also killed all the Hebrew male babies. The eye-for-an-eye thing that was prominent in the Hebrew culture at the time. (doesn't mean I like or agree with it any more than you do. But what would you want to do if you ruled over a land and someone enslaved your people and killed all their male children?)

And that makes it O.K. for GOD?

I don't believe Yeh'vah commanded the slaughtering of anybody; if he wanted people to die, he would have killed them himself, as he did in Genesis. I have a feeling that if the Abrahamic faiths are true, the only part of the Old Testament that was meant to be "God-revealed" is the Torah. Everything else was completely written and compiled by men.

Just a hunch? A feeling? Is that how you decide which parts to believe?

[Autodidact]

Originally Posted by Riverwolf

The killing of the firstborn was justice, as the Egyptians had also killed all the Hebrew male babies.

So if someone kills your child, the just thing to do is to kill his child, in your opinion? And if someone's king kills your child, then the just thing to do is to kill all the children born in that kingdom?

[Sunstone]

Originally Posted by sandy whitelinger

I suppose it's the presumption of innocence that is the area of your misinformation.

So babies aren't innocent?

[stacey bo bacey]

Originally Posted by TashaN

Allah "God" is JUST, because it wouldn't make any sense that Allah would punish in hell whom he love, don't you think so?

Allah is loving too, but why you think he would love those who reject him. It's all about justice.

As far as God or Allah or whatever label anyone wants to put on whoever they believe, I consider that a mighty and tragic fault not being able to love someone who rejects him. Kids tell parents they hate them all the time. Of course most of the time they don't mean it, they're just going through a crazy phase, but sometimes that kid-parent relationship can be extremely twisted and messed up and the hate a child feels for their parent (for whatever reason) is real. Any good, loving parent would love unconditionally and always love their kid/welcome them back with open arms no matter what because it is their child. A mere human can unconditionally love someone who has truly rejected and hated them, but God can't? Hmmm...

People say God's love is unconditional. Supposedly not.

If there happens to be a god, I just want to say, and sometimes yell, to him: so WHAT if I don't believe in you?! Honestly, you can't get over the fact that I just happen to not believe you're real because you've placed me on this Earth with NOTHING substantial to go on?

Someone's a diva.....