Why I think a lot of the Bible is False

[Riverwolf]

Originally Posted by Jayell

I think I was good that God put it there, they were given the freedom to choose. For example how would I know if my wife truly loves me if I was the only man on earth? Think about it.

That's easy. You'd trust her. Simple as that.

Besides, if she didn't really love you, I think there'd be other signs, such as not really wanting to be with you most of the time, avoiding you, constant arguments, etc.... other men don't even enter into it. I think a relationship with God would be the same way, if one were to compare such a relationship to a romantic relationship.

[sandy whitelinger]

Originally Posted by Autodidact

sandy, I'm not following you. I say that God has committed atrocities. You say He hasn't. I say but didn't he repeatedly command genocide? You say that's a non sequitor. Why? Isn't genocide an atrocity?

Maybe I've not read far enough back but I was speaking of the flood and you broadened the parameters.

[sandy whitelinger]

Originally Posted by Autodidact

And this, in a nutshell, is one of the most evil aspects of Christian theology; they believe that little newborn babies are evil. Therefore, killing them is justified, because combating evil is a good thing. Ack!I mean, if little babies aren't innocent, what is?

You are horribly confused. Everone dies because of sin. The wages of sin is death and through the sin of Adam death passed upon all men. That anyone lives is only by the grace of God. All are guilty. You seem to be confusing aspects of the guilt of sin with the act of salvation.

[sandy whitelinger]

Originally Posted by Riverwolf

And the funny thing is, I don't think that's mentioned anywhere in the Bible.

Which part of Autodidact's statement are you referring to?

[sandy whitelinger]

Originally Posted by Autodidact

Please tell me you're not claiming that doing the dishes is the moral equivalent of genocide.

The use of the word "genocide" is incorrect.

[sandy whitelinger]

Originally Posted by Heneni

Hi Jayell. What could humans have done to upset god so much? Rebel? OK, but god does not have an ego problem, if we didnt want God, why would he have a gripe about letting us go? He doesnt, we have our independence here on earth, but we cant make good with it.

So, god is more concerned to get us back, than getting even.

Dont you think?

I think you and few others are missing the big picture. God wishes everone to be able to act out of perfect love. One failing in this (a single sin) is a complete failure in His eyes. Yet in His mercy He made a way for any who wish to be able to act in perfect love can do so.

[sandy whitelinger]

Originally Posted by Mestemia

For I am a vain and jealous God, thou shalt have no other Gods before me.

Could you cite you source please?

[Riverwolf]

Originally Posted by sandy whitelinger

Which part of Autodidact's statement are you referring to?

Where she said that all babies are evil; that's nowhere in the Bible.

Originally Posted by sandy whitelinger

The use of the word "genocide" is incorrect.

Why? Killing is killing, regardless. I've killed. No human, but insects, bacteria... all life. I've killed them so I could survive, therefore it's justified.

Unjustified killing, that is, killing without survival in mind, is murder, which is forbidden in the ten commandments.

Originally Posted by sandy whitelinger

Could you cite you source please?

Oh, please. God says that numerous times in the Torah.

[Autodidact]

Originally Posted by sandy whitelinger

You are horribly confused. Everone dies because of sin. The wages of sin is death and through the sin of Adam death passed upon all men. That anyone lives is only by the grace of God. All are guilty. You seem to be confusing aspects of the guilt of sin with the act of salvation.

Sandy? These are actual conversations I've had with actual Christians. When I ask them why it was moral for God to order Hebrew to kill innocent newborn babies, they reply that those babies aren't innocent; they're born wicked, like all of us. Yuck. Disgusting philosophy.