Abortion is murder

[Draka]

Originally Posted by Tau

Well thats an act of nature, and not a result of the violation of man.

Irrelevant to this discussion.

A fertilised human zygote is ALIVE and genetically HUMAN.

Criteria satisfied.

So you think that we flush human beings down the toilet quite regularly then? If you define a fertilized egg as a vital human being then that makes for a VERY sad prospect.

At that point it is but some cells that may or may not develop into a human being.

[Tau]

Originally Posted by sojourner

Too bad that neither life, nor our understanding of life, are that simple. There are shades of grey here that are too numerous to mention.

Not really, human zygotes respirate and grow, they are human life forms, no one would doubt a bacterium is a life form...

[Tau]

Originally Posted by Draka

So you think that we flush human beings down the toilet quite regularly then? If you define a fertilized egg as a vital human being then that makes for a VERY sad prospect.

At that point it is but some cells that may or may not develop into a human being.

Why is that a sad prospect?

[Tau]

But point is we execute entire babies...not just a clump of cells...

[Draka]

Originally Posted by Tau

But we execute entire babies...not just a clump of cells...

At the early stages of a pregnancy, within the first few weeks, it is a clump of cells. An embryo is not the same thing as a baby. Whether it is considered more than a clump of forming cells at that point is caused by emotional attachment or bond, NOT biology.

[Tau]

Originally Posted by Storm

In that case, Tau I invite you to restate your case in a civil fashion. If you can do that, I'll be happy to debate you.

I cannot be swayed by any debate.

I will never change my mind.

All children unborn or otherwise deserve the full protection of HUMAN RIGHTS.

There can be no compromise with elective abortion for me, it is selfish and evil in my opinion and detremental to the greater good.

[Tau]

Originally Posted by Draka

At the early stages of a pregnancy, within the first few weeks, it is a clump of cells. An embryo is not the same thing as a baby. Whether it is considered more than a clump of forming cells at that point is caused by emotional attachment or bond, NOT biology.

Embryo, baby, whatever...scientifically speaking a human is a human.

I have seen 'embryos' terminated in the abortion procedure, they looked a lot like babies to me...they had hearts brains nervous systems fingers and toes...until they were killed by a lethal injection to the heart and then liquidised by a machine resembling a blender.

[Tau]

I am not emotional about abortion, for me its about legality.

[Sunstone]

I don't think abortion is murder. Just my opinion.

[MidnightBlue]

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