isa (as) /jesus(pbuh)

[nawab]

You Christians say that we dishonor him are you all in your senses you are the ones who portray Jesus as being naked, humiliated, suffering, and telling God why have thou forsaken me. you Christians have a very good reasoning logic. You all should know that any person who is crucifified is cursed. How can God almighty allow his messenger to be crucified and suffer for all of the criminals.

[Mestemia]

Originally Posted by nawab

How can God almighty allow his messenger to be crucified and suffer for all of the criminals.

Because he is all powerful.

[nawab]

Nice excuse for commiting sins because Jesus Paid it.

[Mestemia]

So you would rather his sacrifice be for nothing?
Interesting....

[Jeremy Mason]

Originally Posted by nawab

You Christians say that we dishonor him are you all in your senses you are the ones who portray Jesus as being naked, humiliated, suffering, and telling God why have thou forsaken me. you Christians have a very good reasoning logic. You all should know that any person who is crucifified is cursed. How can God almighty allow his messenger to be crucified and suffer for all of the criminals.

Have you read the Old Testament?

[nawab]

We dont beleive he sacrifice. Prophets sacrifice themselves for Gods not criminals
He didnt sacrifice, we should be the ones to sacrifice ourselves for prophets not they for us. You just make Jesus into lamp but actually you are making him a goat a scapegoat. fuinding excuses for yourselves so that you can commit sins because Jesus paid it. N

[tariqkhwaja]

Wait one second Nawab. Physical humiliation is something all Prophets have and must face. Abraham being sent into the fire. Mohammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) had dirt thrown on him, spikes put on the road he walked on, and much much more.

Just because Jesus was humiliated doesn't prove nothing.

You all should know that any person who is crucifified is cursed.

I don't know why YOU said that but that is true. The Jews believed that according to the old testament the one who will be crucified will be false.

[nawab]

Listen Brov, Phsyical humilation is not physical torture prophets were stoned, but were not crucified understand, Our prophet was stoned many others were, but which prophet walked around being naked and dress with a crown of throns and being humiliated in front of the whole public. thats what i am talking about. to you it doesnt prove anything but for God he will never allow his messenger to die in such a cursed way.

I know that it is mentioned in th OT thats why i said it, alright i am not just another loudspeaker who just say anything with purpose.

[Jeremy Mason]

Originally Posted by nawab

We dont beleive he sacrifice. Prophets sacrifice themselves for Gods not criminals
He didnt sacrifice, we should be the ones to sacrifice ourselves for prophets not they for us. You just make Jesus into lamp but actually you are making him a goat a scapegoat. fuinding excuses for yourselves so that you can commit sins because Jesus paid it. N

Actually, He/Jesus was trying to help all of us...

nawab;1183109]Jesus paid it.

Question: Did Jesus pay for your " nawab's sins as well"
watch where you put your foot. Without your approval of truth/Christ where are you.

( these are my opinions and not anyone else's unless otherwise stated)

[nawab]

Jesus helped you, dude dont you undertsand the purpose of life, thats not our purpose that Christ paid it so we can do whatever we want now and simply enjoy ourselves till the last hour. If Christ paid it whats your purpose then. Life is not a test anymore

We are suppose to show our sacrifices to our prophets, to prove how obedient are we. Such a great man and the Christians portray him like he is a worst criminal getting humiliated in front of his enemies. just so they can sin, I cant accept this part.

Just answer my simple question, WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF JESUS WAS NOT CRUCIFIED PLEASE ANSWER