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Old 07-08-2008, 05:40 PM
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Do you know which elements or how many were not Biblical?

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Old 07-10-2008, 07:42 AM
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I think its clear that the liguistical evidence presented can not - nor is intended to show the BoM as a historically accurate work.

If a person writes a paper describing perpetual motion, lingustic evidence could be used to identify a number of things, none of course would be able to show this concept of perpetual motion to be real.

Its not a question of weighting. Linguistic evidence will not make archeological evidence appear. Linguistics will not show the Native Americans descended from hebraic origins when we now know that Native Americans descended from Asiatic origins. It could show examples of "reformed Egyptian" in Mesoamerican history.... but it doesn't.

Linguistical evidence of what? Lingusitcal evidence also has shown Joe's translation of real egyptian to be false, what am I to make of his puported translation of "Reformed Egyptian" on the magical disappearing secret gold plates?
This is further proof that the BoM can't be a transaltion from golden plates. It is in the history that J. Smith took the tablets to experts revealing that J. Smith did not know how to translate them himself.
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This is further proof that the BoM can't be a transaltion from golden plates. It is in the history that J. Smith took the tablets to experts revealing that J. Smith did not know how to translate them himself.
Just curious - do you have any idea what you are talking about?
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Just curious - do you have any idea what you are talking about?
LOL! Clearly, no.
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Old 07-10-2008, 11:24 AM
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This is further proof that the BoM can't be a transaltion from golden plates. It is in the history that J. Smith took the tablets to experts revealing that J. Smith did not know how to translate them himself.
Please provide verifiable sources and references to back this claim up.
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This is further proof that the BoM can't be a transaltion from golden plates. It is in the history that J. Smith took the tablets to experts revealing that J. Smith did not know how to translate them himself.
So, you agree that Joseph had gold plates, but you don't think he translated them himself?
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So, you agree that Joseph had gold plates, but you don't think he translated them himself?
I love the way you think, DS. Why do I always miss the obvious?
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This is further proof that the BoM can't be a transaltion from golden plates. It is in the history that J. Smith took the tablets to experts revealing that J. Smith did not know how to translate them himself.
I thought nobody but Joseph Smith saw the plates, and that even the eye witnesses were only ever permitted to feel them through a covering?
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I thought nobody but Joseph Smith saw the plates, and that even