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Old 05-20-2008, 01:50 PM
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While you are taking care of your task....You were referring me to the scripture Mat 10:34-35....Yes Jesus wants us to separate light from darkness, my answer to you though is Jesus wants us to use wisdom and caution

Mat 10:16 Behold, I send you forth, as sheep in the midst of wolves; be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves

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Old 05-20-2008, 01:58 PM
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While you are taking care of your task....You were referring me to the scripture Mat 10:34-35....Yes Jesus wants us to separate light from darkness, my answer to you though is Jesus wants us to use wisdom and caution

Mat 10:16 Behold, I send you forth, as sheep in the midst of wolves; be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves

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34"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn
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a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law -

36a man's enemies will be the members of his own household.'[e] 37"Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; 38and anyone who does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.

Let's just share the Jesus Christ revealed in the scripture alone together as one in Christ. God did not make us with the same personality or temperment, but He did unite us as one in Christ, where there is no male or female, slaves or master. Our goal is the same...by the enabling grace of God... we want to glorify the great God that we know, and share Him with all who are willing to listen.

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Didn't Jesus accept us just the way we were as sinners? Or were you already perfect when you met Jesus? He loved us that is why he died for us, even when we were sinners..................

ROMANS 5:8
BUT GOD COMMENDETH HIS LOVE TOWARD US, IN THAT, WHILE WE WERE YET SINNERS, CHRIST DIED FOR US.
Paul was the author of Romans, do you not recognize this?
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I did not know that you worship and believe in God? How do you personally determine truth from God? How do you know what God is like, and what is your duty to God? My answer to these questions is through the Bible alone.
So, you do not go to church then?
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I'm not sure if your phrase "the Lord loved the sinners, just didn't like the sin" can be supported in the Scriptures? What do you think God saved you from? Do you mind answering a few more questions? Do you believe LDS Christians are united to the Christ that your worship? How do you know the Holy Spirit is working the way that you think? What are you expecting from the Lord while you wait for His guidance? I believe God has already given you clear direction in the Holy Bible.
I gave you the scripture to prove it is in the bible....Now is that proof enough that it is in fact a scripture and can support itself?

I am waiting on the Lord's guidance, it's quite simple you know, I pray ask Jesus and the Holy Ghost for guidance and to be able to remember the scripture I need and just like the bible says the Holy Ghost brings all things to my rememberance, that I need to use..........Is that acceptable or do you oppose that too?
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How does the Holy Ghost testify of what is true? This is the central issue behind all of our discussions and debate? Does the Holy Spirit reveal truth through the Scriptures alone as final authority? Or, did God send a modern day prophet to restore the church...therefore the Holy Spirit works through "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints" to know the truth? This is the real spiritual battle of The Christian Faith, because they are mutually exclusive faiths. They both cannot be right at the same time.
The Holy Ghost testifies of truth wherever it is found. In the scriptures, in someone's words, in anything we see or hear.

Of course God forsaw this confusion. He knew of the countless religions that would claim to interpret the Bible correctly, yet differing from each other.

Being that he is not a god of confusion, he provided help. One of the sources of help is the Holy Ghost. We can all ask God for help to recognize truth.

When we receive an answer from God, we must go with it. If God tells me something that differs from 1800 years of Christian doctrine, I still must go with it. Especially if what he is telling me AGREES with the Bible. If he tells you something else, you must go with that. Regardless of what you, I, or anyone else here says. God's opinion, manifested through the Holy Ghost, trumps us all.

In answer to your next question: I cannot account for what God is telling anyone else, but only myself. I only know what the Spirit has told me--and how it has proven true as I obey it. But I cannot force my belief upon you. We all need our own witness, and it's our own responsiblity to seek it.
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I did not know that you worship and believe in God? How do you personally determine truth from God? How do you know what God is like, and what is your duty to God? My answer to these questions is through the Bible alone.
When did I say that I worship God, be it yours, the god of the Bible, or otherwise?
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I'm not sure if your phrase "the Lord loved the sinners, just didn't like the sin" can be supported in the Scriptures? What do you think God saved you from? Do you mind answering a few more questions? Do you believe LDS Christians are united to the Christ that your worship? How do you know the Holy Spirit is working the way that you think? What are you expecting from the Lord while you wait for His guidance? I believe God has already given you clear direction in the Holy Bible.
The summary of this whole thread is you felt the LDS were wrong in their faith and you needed to convert them to your belief, what other reason would you have for this thread if that was not the intent? You said something I said was not scriptural, I proved it was....I can tell you that the Holy Ghost is not working through you in your endeavor, because He doesn't do things half way, he would work on both ends , he would have had you enlighten them, and they would have been receptive if it were a divine task... God has given me a clear direction, and that is to serve Him. As far as answering your question about the LDS being united to the Christ that you and I worship, I can't answer for anyone but me. Judge not, lest ye be judged...

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The summary of this whole thread is you felt the LDS were wrong in their faith and you needed to convert them to your belief, what other reason would you have for this thread if that was not the intent? You said something I said was not scriptural, I proved it was....I can tell you that the Holy Ghost is not working through you in your endeavor, because He doesn't do things half way, he would work on both ends , he would have had you enlighten them, and they would have been receptive if it were a divine task... God has given me a clear direction, and that is to serve Him. As far as answering your question about the LDS being united to the Christ that you and I worship, I can't answer for anyone but me. Judge not, lest ye be judged...

Thank you and may you continue to grow in the grace and knowledge of the Lord
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I'm not sure if you can speak for God the Holy Spirit...sister...LOL! Check out John 3, and the wind.

1 Samuel 16:7:
But the LORD said to Samuel, "Do not consider his appearance or his height, for I have rejected him. The LORD does not look at the things man looks at. Man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart."

1 John 4

Test the Spirits
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

1 Thes 5

Final Instructions
12Now we ask you, brothers, to respect those who work hard among you, who are over you in the Lord and who admonish you. 13Hold them in the highest regard in love because of their work. Live in peace with each other. 14And we urge you, brothers, warn those who are idle, encourage the timid, help the weak, be patient with everyone. 15Make sure that nobody pays back wrong for wrong, but always try to be kind to each other and to everyone else.
16Be joyful always; 17pray continually; 18give thanks in all circumstances, for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
19Do not put out the Spirit's fire; 20do not treat prophecies with contempt. 21Test everything. Hold on to the good. 22Avoid every kind of evil.
23May God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 24The one who calls you is faithful and he will do it.
25Brothers, pray for us. 26Greet all the brothers with a holy kiss. 27I charge you before the Lord to have this letter read to all the brothers. 28The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.

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