Book of Mormon a copycat of the Holy Bible? (Jesus Christ, reject)

[Charity]

I don't know what difference it makes as to what church I belong to. Yes I told you I am a Fundamentalist and believe the Bible..l did not say I agreed with the doctrine of LDS, Catholic or any particular church...I said I did not agree with some of their doctrine. Like I know they would not agree with everything I believe. I did not say that I didn't agree with your doctrine did I? The only thing I said I disagree with the way you have gone about this...The point I tried to make was that you have already made them turn a deaf ear to what you are trying to tell them by the way you approached them..When you attack them it automatically puts them on the defensive. Why do you not understand this? What is wrong with trying to reason together instead of being smug, and pompous about our faith?

My church would probably be proud that I am making a stand to try and establish some peaceful solution in a state of confusion. Just because these people don't worship the way we do, we still need to respect them and love them....

Did Jesus not go among the sinners and unbelievers? He used parables to teach. He did not start stoning them and attacking them, but reaching them through love and wisdom...People have to reach the truth by their own conclusion, not by someone beating them over the head....My point is there are so many religions on here and lots of Atheists, I'm sure they are saying, things like well if this is being a Christian then they feel like they are better off the way they are. Can't you see the harm that this type of division causes? Actually Fish Hunter we probably really believe much the same, it's just that I probably just tend to take a different approach and Wait upon the Lord.....All things in due season.

You see all these other people on the forum don't understand our beliefs, they really don't want to know them, but they do understand that we can't even get along with each other................Can we at least agree to disagree but do it in a way that doesn't cause hurt to others.

I leave you with this.....

Proverbs 15:1
A soft answer turneth away wrath but grevious words stir up anger
Proverbs 18:19
A brother offended in harder to be won than a strong city: and their contentions are like the bars of a castle.

Peace be with you
Charity

[silvermoon383]

These describe Christ a lot better than I ever could:

Bible Dictionary: Christ

Five Marks of the Divinity of Jesus Christ

[Fish-Hunter]

Originally Posted by Starfish

The Holy Ghost testifies of truth. I try to follow that, regardless of anything said in RF.

How does the Holy Ghost testify of what is true? This is the central issue behind all of our discussions and debate? Does the Holy Spirit reveal truth through the Scriptures alone as final authority? Or, did God send a modern day prophet to restore the church...therefore the Holy Spirit works through "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints" to know the truth? This is the real spiritual battle of The Christian Faith, because they are mutually exclusive faiths. They both cannot be right at the same time.

[Fish-Hunter]

Originally Posted by Charity

I don't know what difference it makes as to what church I belong to. Yes I told you I am a Fundamentalist and believe the Bible..l did not say I agreed with the doctrine of LDS, Catholic or any particular church...I said I did not agree with some of their doctrine. Like I know they would not agree with everything I believe. I did not say that I didn't agree with your doctrine did I? The only thing I said I disagree with the way you have gone about this...The point I tried to make was that you have already made them turn a deaf ear to what you are trying to tell them by the way you approached them..When you attack them it automatically puts them on the defensive. Why do you not understand this? What is wrong with trying to reason together instead of being smug, and pompous about our faith?

My church would probably be proud that I am making a stand to try and establish some peaceful solution in a state of confusion. Just because these people don't worship the way we do, we still need to respect them and love them....

Did Jesus not go among the sinners and unbelievers? He used parables to teach. He did not start stoning them and attacking them, but reaching them through love and wisdom...People have to reach the truth by their own conclusion, not by someone beating them over the head....My point is there are so many religions on here and lots of Atheists, I'm sure they are saying, things like well if this is being a Christian then they feel like they are better off the way they are. Can't you see the harm that this type of division causes? Actually Fish Hunter we probably really believe much the same, it's just that I probably just tend to take a different approach and Wait upon the Lord.....All things in due season.

You see all these other people on the forum don't understand our beliefs, they really don't want to know them, but they do understand that we can't even get along with each other................Can we at least agree to disagree but do it in a way that doesn't cause hurt to others.

I leave you with this.....

Proverbs 15:1
A soft answer turneth away wrath but grevious words stir up anger
Proverbs 18:19
A brother offended in harder to be won than a strong city: and their contentions are like the bars of a castle.

Peace be with you
Charity

Dear Charity,

Does truth matter? I think what you have suggested is not possible. Did Jesus come to bring peace or a sword to divide humanity into two groups? Please try to provide a biblical response as compared to your own wisdom. Since you have called Mormons your brothers and sisters, you have essentially implied that the differences are non-essential doctrines. I believe you have the right intentions, but do more harm than good. We are called to speak the truth in love, first and foremost for our love for God, then for the sake of others. Chrisitans are saved to the praise of His glorious grace (Eph 1-2). We are to glorify God in all that we do in spirit and in truth. Satan's greatest weapon is the lie and the distortion of God's Word. Look at the deception and lie of Genesis Chapter 3, and the fall of mankind. Satan still uses lies to distort God's truth found in Scripture. False teaching tries to undermine the glory of God. The one true God is so amazing, wonderful, glorious, wise, and desirable, that we should care when His Holy Character and attributes are undermined and distorted. I suggest that you consider Romans 8:28 and discuss this with your pastors, elders and overseers about these issues.

Written with the love In Christ Jesus,
Fish-Hunter

[Mestemia]

Originally Posted by Fish-Hunter

Does truth matter?

Yes it does.
BUt I prefer Gods truth over fish-hunters truth any day.
And no, they are not even close to being the same thing.

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by Fish-Hunter

The majority of Christian only forum sites do not consider Mormons to be Christians, not allowing them to participate on their Christian forum sites.

And I suppose that attitude seems real "Christian" to you.

Do you know they reject the deity of Christ? Do you know they reject the Holy Bible as being the authorative Word of God? Do you know they deny the sufficiency of the person and work of Christ on your behalf? Do you accept the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, and Pearl or Great Price to be revelation from God, nullifying the truth of Biblical Revelation? Do you know that the official LDS proclamation of the gospel is different than the gospel proclaimed through Scripture alone?

Note to Charity: It appears that in Fish-Hunter's mind, the end justifies the means. If the goal is to denigrade the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in the minds of people who don't fully understand LDS doctrine, and if the only way to do so is to post lies, half-truths about the Church, it is apparently acceptable to Jesus Christ to do so. If that is what Jesus Christ expects of "true Christians," then I'm sure He's exceptionally pleased with Fish-Hunter.

[Charity]

My Dear Fish Hunter, I am not just a church member, but I am in the ministry myself......I probably have forgotten more scripture than you know.....I know the scripture, so now that we are past that let us continue. But what does that get us, Satan knew the scripture also. Applying it is another......See if we can reason out what I am trying to tell you....

Let's use myself here, I am involved in what you know is a religion where I call myself a "Christian" You know that the doctrine is wrong and does not line up with the scripture in the Holy Bible....But if you love me with a God like love and become friends with me, you gain my trust, then you can tell me your belief and where my belief is different than yours. Then I would be more receptive to your belief and maybe reach the conclusion that indeed what I thought to be truth really isn't. The Holy Ghost or (Holy Spirit) which ever you prefer to use, will quicken my spirit and show me that I did not have the full understanding, therefore I have had an epiphany and will adjust my way of thinking. So if I reach that conclusion I may convert to your belief........But if you had approached me with the atitude that I was wrong and your right, and that I am a member of a "false" religion then you have already made me mad, and I will not let you tell me anything. You have insulted me, so that you have messed up any chance of converting me....After all it's not you that does the converting it is the Holy Ghost, it's your job to show me something in your life that is missing from mine.... Let your light shine, actions can do more than words when someone is watching your life.....Let me see something in your Christian walk that I desire to have in my life.......Can you undestand what I am saying here....Reciting the scriptures and preaching is great, but Let me see Christ in you, live it in front of me daily, that is the only way some people will ever learn about God. We are the only Bible that someone people will see. Once they desire what we have well surely you can draw a conclusion from this.....................

Every post I have made to you is not to put you down, I admire your stand, but it is apparently not going to work. It's good to stand for what you believe in...I'm just telling you that you have used the wrong approach, if in fact what you wish to do is show them they are wrong......Just remember even if you just do a small part you don't know how much impact you may have... I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.......Amen do you agree?

I will not reply to any more of your posts, I have said all I feel that God would have me tell you...I am not compromising, only waiting on the Lord for guidance. Remember the Lord loved the sinners, he just didn't like the sin......

Grow in the Grace and Knowledge of the Lord
Charity

[Fish-Hunter]

Originally Posted by Mestemia

Yes it does.
BUt I prefer Gods truth over fish-hunters truth any day.
And no, they are not even close to being the same thing.

I did not know that you worship and believe in God? How do you personally determine truth from God? How do you know what God is like, and what is your duty to God? My answer to these questions is through the Bible alone.