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Old 05-23-2008, 10:50 AM
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Do you believe that the writings of the Council of Trent to be sacred written tradition equivalent to Scripture? If you give me the wrong answer, you might be changing into a Protestor of Rome (Protestant).
... or changing into a Orthodox Christian (you always seem to forget them).

What, exactly, was new in the Council of Trent? As a valid Ecumenical Council I certainly recognize it as valid, but you have to understand that Councils are legally convened assemblies for the purpose of discussing and regulating matters of church doctrine and discipline....and in certain cases: DOGMA.

Trent was a response to the heresy of Protestantism... look to the first seven councils if you'd like to see true examples of Tradition that are equal to Scripture.
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What happens when we fall short of this goal?
That is called sin.

Back to square one.


What is the point of your questions? You know you have a snowball's chance in hell of convincing me to "convert" to your way of seeing things. As far as I am concerned, even if your interpretations were "right," which I 99.99% doubt, I'd rather be in hell with the other sinners than in your version of heaven.

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That is called sin.

Back to square one.


What is the point of your questions? You know you have a snowball's chance in hell of convincing me to "convert" to your way of seeing things. As far as I am concerned, even if your interpretations were "right," which I 99.99% doubt, I'd rather be in hell with the other sinners than in your version of heaven.
I know that I can't convert you. I'm a Calvinst... remember? Forget about me, and let's see if we can come to the truth together. Who knows, I may think like you after we are done talking.
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... or changing into a Orthodox Christian (you always seem to forget them).

What, exactly, was new in the Council of Trent? As a valid Ecumenical Council I certainly recognize it as valid, but you have to understand that Councils are legally convened assemblies for the purpose of discussing and regulating matters of church doctrine and discipline....and in certain cases: DOGMA.

Trent was a response to the heresy of Protestantism... look to the first seven councils if you'd like to see true examples of Tradition that are equal to Scripture.
As required for all Roman Catholics, you receive all declared written and oral sacred traditon as truth, correct?
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Old 05-23-2008, 11:49 AM
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As required for all Roman Catholics, you receive all declared written and oral sacred traditon as truth, correct?
Yep.... and there is a heirarchy of truths.... for instance priestly celibacy is not as important as the deity of Christ.

What's your point?
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Yep.... and there is a heirarchy of truths.... for instance priestly celibacy is not as important as the deity of Christ.

What's your point?
Are you sure priestly celibacy is considered sacred tradition? My point is that I'm not sure if you understand Orthodox Roman Catholicism according to the Catholic Magestrium.
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Are you sure priestly celibacy is considered sacred tradition? My point is that I'm not sure if you understand Orthodox Roman Catholicism according to the Catholic Magestrium.
Do you honestly think that YOU understand my faith better than I do?

One of us teaches at a Catholic College..... guess which one?
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Close... to the time written about in the NT.... the time of Christ and the Apostles.... then, the oral transmission of the Gospel.... then the writing of the NT "books....

..... then 1500 or so years of Christianity.... THEN the "Reformation" innovations.
An oral contract is worth nothing, much less thousands of years worth of chinese whispers being passed through a corrupt and sometimes wicked papacy, I will pit my eternal destiny on the written words of Gods promises not hearsay.
Biblical Christianity is historical Christianity regardless of who was faithful to it in the years that went by.
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