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Old 05-10-2008, 03:00 PM
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Psalm 8

1 O LORD, our Lord,
how majestic is your name in all the earth!
You have set your glory
above the heavens.
2 From the lips of children and infants
you have ordained praise
because of your enemies,
to silence the foe and the avenger.
3 When I consider your heavens,
the work of your fingers,
the moon and the stars,
which you have set in place,
4 what is man that you are mindful of him,
the son of man that you care for him?
5 You made him a little lower than the heavenly beings
and crowned him with glory and honor.
6 You made him ruler over the works of your hands;
you put everything under his feet:
7 all flocks and herds,
and the beasts of the field,
8 the birds of the air,
and the fish of the sea,
all that swim the paths of the seas.
9 O LORD, our Lord,
how majestic is your name in all the earth!
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Old 05-11-2008, 03:04 AM
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We can't possibly be interesting to God, from an intellectual point of view, since God knows all. So why? Why would God bother even watching us? Why would God bother with ANYTHING. If he's everything, it'd make more sense to end his existence... he'd have little to gain from existing.
Which God are you referring too?

God in the bible?
zeus?
spaghetti monster?
krishna?
buddha?
etc...
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Old 05-11-2008, 05:04 AM
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Which God are you referring too?

God in the bible?
zeus?
spaghetti monster?
krishna?
buddha?
etc...
The god of the bible.
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does god even have a choise? i mean its not like he can just ignore us, hes stuck watching us and everything els till the end of time. would you care if the only thing worth watching might kill itself? leaving you with nothing to watch
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does god even have a choise? i mean its not like he can just ignore us, hes stuck watching us and everything els till the end of time. would you care if the only thing worth watching might kill itself? leaving you with nothing to watch
If we destroyed ourselves, it'd be little effort for god to make us again.
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If we destroyed ourselves, it'd be little effort for god to make us again.
What, you mean with the wave of a magic wand?

I personally believe in the big bang, evolution, and all that. God has a lot invested in us. Not to mention caring just for the sake of caring, not because of any particular reason. There are over 6.66 billion of us - surely we are replaceable as individuals - yet God cares about every single one of us. And the animals, and the plants...
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If a being capable of creating all we see/have yet to see existed, what in the name of T. Pratchett would it see in us lowly humans?

I can see it from the "love" point of view. I mean humans are much more complex than dogs, but we still love them as pets and care a great deal for them and they return the sentiment. But really, is that enough for an all-powerful being to come down and go through some strange and bloody sacrifice for us? Ants are far less complex than humans, they have interest for us, sure, but would any sane person die for an ant?

We can't possibly be interesting to God, from an intellectual point of view, since God knows all. So why? Why would God bother even watching us? Why would God bother with ANYTHING. If he's everything, it'd make more sense to end his existence... he'd have little to gain from existing.
Why is caring dependent upon complexity?
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The god of the bible.
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What, you mean with the wave of a magic wand?

I personally believe in the big bang, evolution, and all that. God has a lot invested in us. Not to mention caring just for the sake of caring, not because of any particular reason. There are over 6.66 billion of us - surely we are replaceable as individuals - yet God cares about every single one of us. And the animals, and the plants...
If ou believe in evolution, then how did your god evolve?
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