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Old 05-22-2008, 06:43 AM
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I believe their quotes , "in general", some have posted show that they were either agnostic or deists, or some combination thereof, specific quotes taken at some point in their lives out of context do not apply.
People can be Christian and agnostic, or Christian and deist. It's not like an "either-or" thing.
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Old 05-22-2008, 07:06 AM
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People can be Christian and agnostic, or Christian and deist. It's not like an "either-or" thing.
But they weren't.
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Old 05-22-2008, 07:08 AM
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But they weren't.
It does seem they definitely want our founding fathers to be Christian.

Why, I cannot fathom.

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Old 05-22-2008, 07:13 AM
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People can be Christian and agnostic, or Christian and deist. It's not like an "either-or" thing.
How true. Stalin's daughter has indicated that he told her that Jesus was real and God's son. Quite often religion does not reflect your inner belief but a social/political decision. Sad that.
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Old 05-22-2008, 08:23 PM
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It does seem they definitely want our founding fathers to be Christian.

Why, I cannot fathom.
The same reason why you guys definitely want our founding fathers to be atheist.

They were whatever each of them described themselves to be, which is a heckuvalot more complex than they there all Christian / they were all atheist dichotomy.
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Old 05-22-2008, 10:31 PM
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The same reason why you guys definitely want our founding fathers to be atheist.

They were whatever each of them described themselves to be, which is a heckuvalot more complex than they there all Christian / they were all atheist dichotomy.
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Old 05-23-2008, 09:25 AM
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I've never said they said they were all atheist, in fact, I emphasized their enlightened outlook towards religion, which includes the fact that they did not consider themselves Christian by the normal standards.
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founding father's? you know what religion freemasons follow? it isn't atheism and it's never the one they say it is to the public.
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