Process Philosophy / Theology (tradition, creation, God, science, Articles)

[doppelgänger]

Originally Posted by lilithu

Yes, but there is a process theology interpretation to the A&E story. (And it centers on free will.)

There's more than one . . . and some of them do.

[Bishadi]

Bishadi I think you're talking about a potential Grand Unified Theory that could not only integrate some mystically/theologically grounded ideas with the sciences but inform ethics also by defining what a healthy role for us in a unified universe would be.

As each can experience life, as well each learns. Some may choose to be a doctor, a scientist, a teacher and there are also the few who like to learn as much as possible just to understand. The point is we all know many areas of physical science have grounded most every phenomena known to mankind except a few. One is how life began and associates to make a living cell. Many areas of particle and cosmological pursuits within physics in no way perform within a frame of living structures. The simple item such as ‘how do phospholipid bilayers form?’ is still unanswered unless the term phenomenon is used.

The knowledge to combine the very small and the very big reveals itself when observing how life exists upon mass.

The reason is that energy itself is incorrectly described.

Energy is considered a potential difference such that planck identified the ‘f’ or frequency of energy but failed to observe the wavelength as when 2 like resonate structures align their combined energy may be greater than the sum of the 2 added separately (against 2nd law).
(example; 2 people can lift more than the sum of each separately)

Energy is the em or an electromagnetic wavelength upon a structure (mass). Light is simply the visible portion but just the same; a magnetic and electric field in perpendicular planes (a cross, literally upon mass). The orientation is related to its source or entangled state. (Entanglement is when mass is associated by having exposure to the same energy (light) (i.e. Same song, same culture, same sunlight. ) Even love is an increased exposure between mass; greater entanglement of energy between the structures.

That was the simple version. The complete version is quite encumbering as from how memories work, to how the galaxies turn to the comprehension of ‘heat’ itself. Each and every form of understanding can be understood and consistent with historical renditions and compassionate associations all within the knowledge of light.

That could be very interesting. I'd shift my paradigm real fast if it happened.

How would you like to have purchased Microsoft or Apple stock 25 years ago? Not that anything is for sale but what if what is being conveyed is truly real? Could you run with the idea and advance a medical break through; maybe work on cancer or diabetes?

Does the material information make sense? Can you share with a little person? That is the ultimate goal; that one day a little person can grow up and be able to find the correct answers on the first pass. Compassion is pretty uniform but comprehending life is not. If more people understood what life is, their priorities would change and responsibility would be an inert part of living. The ‘understanding’ combines each branch of the sciences, the religions and core philosophical knowledge by representing ‘light’ as energy upon mass.

So ‘yes’ a paradigm shift is on the forefront. The single form of material knowledge that will combine the 4 corners of this earth is in the Understanding of Life. As the medical field and the compassionate associations improve with knowledge, the walls of restraint will fall between brothers.

[Scarlett Wampus]

Bishadi I had a lot of problems understanding how the simple version was meant to fit together so the complete version

Originally Posted by Bishadi

How would you like to have purchased Microsoft or Apple stock 25 years ago? Not that anything is for sale but what if what is being conveyed is truly real? Could you run with the idea and advance a medical break through; maybe work on cancer or diabetes?

Does the material information make sense? Can you share with a little person? That is the ultimate goal; that one day a little person can grow up and be able to find the correct answers on the first pass. Compassion is pretty uniform but comprehending life is not. If more people understood what life is, their priorities would change and responsibility would be an inert part of living. The ‘understanding’ combines each branch of the sciences, the religions and core philosophical knowledge by representing ‘light’ as energy upon mass.

So ‘yes’ a paradigm shift is on the forefront. The single form of material knowledge that will combine the 4 corners of this earth is in the Understanding of Life. As the medical field and the compassionate associations improve with knowledge, the walls of restraint will fall between brothers.

I can totally relate to this dream about the potential of metaphysics but, I dunno Bishadi, that light as energy upon mass stuff sounds too far out there. Without really knowing much about what you're trying to convey I'm guessing you're mistaking the subtle body for physics. If instead energy as typically described by modern physics is mistaken your ideas would have to run the gauntlet of being scrutinised through the scientific method.

[Bishadi]

Originally Posted by Scarlett Wampus

Bishadi I had a lot of problems understanding how the simple version was meant to fit together so the complete version

So the question is ???/

I can totally relate to this dream about the potential of metaphysics

Metaphysical transends time and the reality is physically or scientifically based; No dreaming involved. 25 years ago as a student a model was identified while describing the exchange between neurons (grey matter) and from that point on study has been a sort of way of life.

that light as energy upon mass stuff sounds too far out there.

No it isn't as the words or frame of articulation is written through the metaphysical world but the frame described in science and math is unique in that existence only operates in one fashion and that frame is right in front of you. Verify any item you wish! That is the beauty behind the truth, that it must retain integrity within all scientific data.

Without really knowing much about what you're trying to convey I'm guessing you're mistaking the subtle body for physics.

Nope, please no pigeon hole for me. To make a suggestion as you did is discounting the material knowledge based on your pursuits and depth, not that the pursuit and depth was not addressed before sharing or revealing what is true.

If instead energy as typically described by modern physics is mistaken your ideas would have to run the gauntlet of being scrutinised through the scientific method.

And integrity is the absolute; meaning since math and the core of physical descriptions is what most every items mentioned is based on, then let's just say, maybe you do not have the background to verify or access to the math for your own review. That's OK yet to assume fly by night kind of representation is what is being conveyed, maybe it is best to doubt with questions versus trying to discount simply because you're not quite up to date.

[Scarlett Wampus]

Originally Posted by Bishadi

And integrity is the absolute; meaning since math and the core of physical descriptions is what most every items mentioned is based on, then let's just say, maybe you do not have the background to verify or access to the math for your own review. That's OK yet to assume fly by night kind of representation is what is being conveyed, maybe it is best to doubt with questions versus trying to discount simply because you're not quite up to date.

* nods * I almost certainly don't have the background to verify or access the math for my own review and I'm sorry that you're offended if I assume this is probably a fly by night scenario here. The reason I did is because 1) What little I think I understand about what you're saying sounds exotic and to me, and 2) Most exotic theories I come across don't usually amount to anything.

Questions will do then. Can two people really life more than the sum of their individual strength combined? How can love be explained as an increased exposure between mass? Its an emotion, isn't it? So what of hate?

[Bishadi]

Please be patient

Can two people really life more than the sum of their individual strength combined?

if ‘lift’ is the question then by all means. Find a heavy couch or even specific weights to measure and have a friend with you, run a test. Describe, define… please if by physical experiments a pure truth can reveal the truth to you, then each person who reads your test results can have a foundation to work from. Kind of scientific and beautiful to really test each item before believing just to be accepted.

As for ‘life’ well it seems to ‘create’ another; takes 2 to combine and make a baby (naturally of course).

How can love be explained as an increased exposure between mass?

Entangled energy. Ie… see casimir. No additional energy to the system yet the metal plates exchange energy back and forth and a definable momentum (attraction) increases between the 2. So now you can observe a physical property to define ‘entangled energy’ within an existing description to observe this ‘phenomenon.’

Its an emotion, isn't it?

Yes as we describe the feeling of why we “LOVE” or even Hate……….. we build a list of exchanges to form ‘our’ opinions to the prescribed cause. Each set of feelings, the list that we use as important, and even the inert feeling may seem a little different to each but the it is the descriptions that vary as the form to physical existence (within the body literally) is definable.