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Old 05-08-2008, 09:53 AM
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"an historian", Brendan!? Shame on you!
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What's wrong with "an"? It's correct. Or am I missing something here?
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"An" is upholding the weak "h." It's correct.

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Old 05-08-2008, 10:28 AM
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"An" is upholding the weak "h." It's correct.

What an honor!
The problem with that is that the "H" in "honor" is not pronounced. It's basically like the word being "onor". The "H" in "historian" is pronounced, at least in American English. If the "H" is pronounced, then the word begins with a consonant, and "an" is unnecessary, and therefore incorrect.
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Old 05-08-2008, 10:33 AM
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If the "H" is pronounced, then the word begins with a consonant, and "an" is unnecessary, and therefore incorrect.
Pronouncing that "h" is verboten. In any case, American English accepts either form of the indefinite article as "correct" according to my Scott Forsman.

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Old 05-08-2008, 10:37 AM
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I think it depends a little on how you pronounce 'a' as to whether it is easier to use an. Using the short vowel sound makes it a bit clumsy to say a historian. If you extend the a like 'ay' , it is a little easier to say the hi of historian afterwards.
"a hi"
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"an hi"
As far as correct grammar goes though, it's a historian.
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I'm pretty sure that's both "right" and "left" - pretty much by definition.
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Old 05-08-2008, 10:39 AM
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Pronouncing that "h" is verboten. In any case, American English accepts either form of the indefinite article as "correct" according to my Scott Forsman.

Don't be such an haughty boy, Matt!
Do you mean that pronouncing the "h" in "historian" is veboten? I'd beg to differ, if that's the case. I'm sure some people will say either form is correct, but it doesn't make sense, and so it is one of my pet peeves.

The main question is "Do you pronounce the "h" when you say "historian"? If you do, then there's no reason for "an" instead of "a", as the "n" only serves to make the transition from one vowel to another more fluid, i.e. from "a" to the "i" in historian.

EDIT: And I can't help being haughty when it comes to grammar. It's one of my few faults. I usually don't say anything, anyway, but I see you as a beacon of educatedness (that's right, I said it).
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How is that "left"?

I find it odd to apply political terms to purely theological positions.
Where does the atheist fit in the range from left to right? Does that mean you are not in the game?
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Where does the atheist fit in the range from left to right? Does that mean you are not in the game?
To clarify, I don't think the terms "left" and "right" are properly applied to theological (or atheological) positions.
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To clarify, I don't think the terms "left" and "right" are properly applied to theological (or atheological) positions.
If you don't believe in God, why do you want to talk about theology? Unless you consider Atheism to be a faith based religion.

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