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Old 05-06-2008, 05:41 AM
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There is no real evidence that any god exists.
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Old 05-06-2008, 08:03 AM
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There is no real evidence that any god exists.
Except the universe itself, but yeah, other than that I guess you are correct.
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Old 05-06-2008, 08:10 AM
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A simple set of questions and a few followups which may or may not be applicable depending on your answers.
  • Do you believe the bible is accurate place to obtain historical data? Why or Why not?
  • Does God Exist?
If you answered no then not much else probably applies here.
  • Which God do you believe in? (Jesus, YHWH, Krishna, Allah?)
  • Why do you believe your god is the true god?
1) No, It's a better bed-time story for kids who like that kinda language
2) I say "yes" but I have a different concept than what that may bring to your mind
3) My own concept, carefully thought out, and attempted to bring to experience.... kind of....
4) My concept of "god" is the true god for me, because it's true for me.
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Old 05-06-2008, 10:21 AM
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Except the universe itself, but yeah, other than that I guess you are correct.
The universe is not proof of god.

The universe is so wonderous and complex that it couldn't just be. Something must have created it and that something is even more wonderous and complex then the universe but doesn't need an explanation of creation? Circular.
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Old 05-06-2008, 09:34 PM
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The universe is not proof of god.

The universe is so wonderous and complex that it couldn't just be. Something must have created it and that something is even more wonderous and complex then the universe but doesn't need an explanation of creation? Circular.
So says you, but then, what do you know?

Perhaps you could explain String Theory to us all? Please help us all understand how it forms elemental particles by the vibration of bands of energy that also create physical laws that control the action of the particles. Also, maybe you could explain to all of us where exactly these bands of energy are coming from, or who they are coming from?

If you can't explain String Theory to us then you don't really know enough about the universe to make an informed judgement, do you?

The universe does not need an explanation of creation. You're the one doing the asking.
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Old 05-07-2008, 06:01 AM
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So says you, but then, what do you know?

Perhaps you could explain String Theory to us all? Please help us all understand how it forms elemental particles by the vibration of bands of energy that also create physical laws that control the action of the particles. Also, maybe you could explain to all of us where exactly these bands of energy are coming from, or who they are coming from?

If you can't explain String Theory to us then you don't really know enough about the universe to make an informed judgement, do you?

The universe does not need an explanation of creation. You're the one doing the asking.

What does explaining an unproven theory have to do with anything. There is no evidentiary support for string theory.
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:43 AM
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What does explaining an unproven theory have to do with anything. There is no evidentiary support for string theory.
When you understand how the universe really works you will discover evidence that proves the existence of God.
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Old 05-07-2008, 10:12 AM
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So says you, but then, what do you know?
Quite a bit but my personal knowledge is not relavant to the argument. You say the universe is a vast wonderous place and was created by an entity that is even more vast and wonderous and was not created. Thats a logic problem.

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Perhaps you could explain String Theory to us all? Please help us all understand how it forms elemental particles by the vibration of bands of energy that also create physical laws that control the action of the particles. Also, maybe you could explain to all of us where exactly these bands of energy are coming from, or who they are coming from?

If you can't explain String Theory to us then you don't really know enough about the universe to make an informed judgement, do you?
Argument by question, appeal to the future and a red-herring strawman. Not taking any chances here eh? LOL. String theory is not relavant or proven and the whole "Who are they coming from"... is an implied belief in god... Why not What rather then who?

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The universe does not need an explanation of creation. You're the one doing the asking.
So what are you debating? I wasn't asking, I was stating that the universe itself in no way proves the existance of a god or a creator. Thats a statement. If you somehow believe that it does by all means state your evidence that supports your claim.
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