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Old 05-11-2008, 09:09 PM
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With the inerrant bible as reference? never!

How do you explain the countless upon countless denominations? Which one follows the bible accurately? Which one is the "real" one? Oh, wait. Let me guess. Yours? Of course it is. Perhaps the bible isn't as inerrant and infallible as you would like to believe. That might be why the umpteen thousand different flavors of Christianity contradict each other, because the bible contradicts itself.
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Old 05-11-2008, 09:16 PM
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How do you explain the countless upon countless denominations? Which one follows the bible accurately? Which one is the "real" one? Oh, wait. Let me guess. Yours? Of course it is. Perhaps the bible isn't as inerrant and infallible as you would like to believe. That might be why the umpteen thousand different flavors of Christianity contradict each other, because the bible contradicts itself.

Plain in simple pastors who teach in other denominations deviate from what is really written...

read this post from another thread: Will there ever be just the one religion - as there is only the one God!?


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Unfortunately your idea of peace is not possible in this world. Why?

1. We were already warned by Peter ( second letter 2:1) "But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction." and warrned by John (first letter 4:1) "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world."

Why would their be false prophets? Peter said in his second letter(2:3) "Those teachers are never satisfied. They want to get something out of you. So they make up stories to take advantage of you. They have been under a sentence of death for a long time. The One who will destroy them has not been sleeping. "

How do you make sure you are not taken advantage of? Paul said to the Cornthians in first letter (4:13) "We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak; That is why paul reiterated further in verse 6 if the same letter and chapter " And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another." Paul further stated in 2 Cor 12:18 "I desired Titus, and with him I sent a brother. Did Titus make a gain of you? walked we not in the same spirit? walked we not in the same steps?

Paul and Titus were in the same spirit, The real church will follow a single non-contradicting doctrine as stated by John 7:16-18 "Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself. He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.

The bible is pretty consistent, if you will seek the glory of the lord you will not seek your own. hence the preacher of God's doctrin shall exprience what Jesus said in the gospel of Matthew 10:24 " The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord" and therefore shall experience the following MAtthew 10:22"And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
Hence, that is why Matthew said in Chapter 5:10-11 "Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

There can't be peace, a lot of people will seek there own glory rather than God's and they will persecute those who seek's God's will.
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Old 05-11-2008, 09:29 PM
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Plain in simple pastors who teach in other denominations deviate from what is really written...
And I'm sure that's what they all say, too. And you're so certain that your denomination (out of thousands) is the one right and true because... it was the one you were born into and raised to believe? Ah, I see how that works.
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Old 05-11-2008, 09:46 PM
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And I'm sure that's what they all say, too. And you're so certain that your denomination (out of thousands) is the one right and true because... it was the one you were born into and raised to believe? Ah, I see how that works.

ooooppsss wrong sir, I was raised Roman Catholic. i was Roman catholic for 27 years. my parents and siblings remain to be catholic.

i was converted only exactly a year ago...


I am certain my denomination is the right one because of it faihfulness to scripture....
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Old 05-12-2008, 12:22 AM
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ooooppsss wrong sir, I was raised Roman Catholic. i was Roman catholic for 27 years. my parents and siblings remain to be catholic.

i was converted only exactly a year ago...

I am certain my denomination is the right one because of it faihfulness to scripture....
But wasn't the first counsel of nicaea held by the catholic church, which compiled what's considered biblically canonical?
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Plain in simple pastors who teach in other denominations deviate from what is really written...
And you don't?
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But wasn't the first counsel of nicaea held by the catholic church, which compiled what's considered biblically canonical?
no the council of Nicea agreed on what thier ideas of the nature of Diety were, nothing could be farther from biblicaly defined as the nicene creed
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How do you explain the countless upon countless denominations? Which one follows the bible accurately? Which one is the "real" one? Oh, wait. Let me guess. Yours? Of course it is. Perhaps the bible isn't as inerrant and infallible as you would like to believe. That might be why the umpteen thousand different flavors of Christianity contradict each other, because the bible contradicts itself.
Wow. I agree with an atheist. Who would have thought it?
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