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Old 05-11-2008, 01:25 AM
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I think we just have different interpretations of what Fiah-Hunter meant. I'll have to ask Katzpur.

Katzpur could simply be referring for the KJV with the footnotes. Which matches how Fish-Hunter explained it. I took what fish-hunter said to mean the Joseph Smith translation.
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of course not, you went above what is written with all your extrabiblical references that you already admit you base on to complete the bibles alleged "contradictions, errors and the like.

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So real Christians will never contradict each other ever?
With the inerrant bible as reference? never!
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Old 05-11-2008, 03:09 AM
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According to many, many non-LDS Christians, the vast majority of humankind will spend eternity in Hell. Who is better off in your opinion? An LDS Christian or a non-LDS Christian?
First of all, God whose in an inerrant bible is a God who so desires all men to be saved, and the same God who judges those from the outside of his church.

No real Christian will judge other people as hellbound. but God is a just God. rewards will fit the type of people who was saved from hell.
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Old 05-11-2008, 01:33 PM
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what ever you say man!
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of course not, you went above what is written with all your extrabiblical references that you already admit you base on to complete the bibles alleged "contradictions, errors and the like.
Except that the Book of Mormon, D&C, Peral of Great Price, and words of the prophets ARE what is written. Those sources are just as valide scripture as any other, because they came from the mouthpiece of God(aka prophets) as well. But any guy that just comes along and tells me he knows what the scriptures mean and starts trying to teach me his own doctrine I'm not going to believe Him. That's because I believe this scripture:

1 Cor. 4:6(underline added)
6 And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.

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With the inerrant bible as reference? never!
So which version of the bible do you use that is perfect and inerrant? I would love to find a perfect one.

So christians can't have their own opinions. They must be mindless drones.
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Old 05-11-2008, 06:54 PM
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Except that the Book of Mormon, D&C, Peral of Great Price, and words of the prophets ARE what is written. Those sources are just as valide scripture as any other, because they came from the mouthpiece of God(aka prophets) as well. But any guy that just comes along and tells me he knows what the scriptures mean and starts trying to teach me his own doctrine I'm not going to believe Him. That's because I believe this scripture:
Paul referred to the apostles of his time ... your prophets came later. they are subject to gal 1:8 as different gospels





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So which version of the bible do you use that is perfect and inerrant? I would love to find a perfect one.
ISA 34:16
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So christians can't have their own opinions. They must be mindless drones.
Being mindless and not being high minded are two different things. Christains can have opinions, but not spiritual opinions. like interpreting " have is own" spouse as the same as "co-own" a spouse.
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Paul referred to the apostles of his time ... your prophets came later. they are subject to gal 1:8 as different gospels
Paul was refering the what is written. That's what it says. By saying that refers only to the apostles of His time is your own interpretation.

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Really?

Isaiah 34:16
16 ¶ Seek ye out of the book of the Lord, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them.
Matthew 5:18
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

That's your Bible? Just two verses?

Come on seriously where can I get your perfect Bible?


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Being mindless and not being high minded are two different things. Christains can have opinions, but not spiritual opinions.
So Christians cannot have Spiritual opinions. They can do nothing of their own spiritually. They can do nothing that they feel will increase their spirituality, or closeness to God.

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like interpreting " have is own" spouse as the same as "co-own" a spouse.
I guess you aren't talking to me because I've never interpreted it to mean that.
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Paul was refering the what is written. That's what it says. By saying that refers only to the apostles of His time is your own interpretation.
He did say " learn from us" not to think of men above what is written" he said "US."

Don't you know that Peter mentioned Paul in his epistles? that the apostels were together once in the book of acts?

saying he meant to include yout prophets is self serving....


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Really?

Isaiah 34:16
16 ¶ Seek ye out of the book of the Lord, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them.
Matthew 5:18
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

That's your Bible? Just two verses?

Come on seriously where can I get your perfect Bible?
John 9:41

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They can do nothing of their own spiritually. They can do nothing that they feel will increase their spirituality, or closeness to God.
of course christians can do all of the above, within the confines of God's written law in the bible....
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Again you still haven't told me where to get a copy of the Perfect Bible that you use. Are you going to tell me or should I start searching google?
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Again you still haven't told me where to get a copy of the Perfect Bible that you use. Are you going to tell me or should I start searching google?

I already told you ... you just refuse to believe ...
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I already told you ... you just refuse to believe ...
No you haven't. You've just posted verses from the Bible. I'm looking for a link to Amazon.com or somthing where I can get one of the Perfect Bibles you use.
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