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There must be two Gods. One is the Hebrew God of the OT,the one
who commanded Joshua to kill every man, woman and child
in Jericho,the one who drowned countless people in the flood,
the one who leveled Sodom and Gomorrah.The other God is
the one who Jesus preached about,the understanding God,
the God of love and kindness. Which is the real God ? One of the two
mentioned above, is it THE WORD,is it Jesus,or is it whoever you want it
to be?
Welcome to the forum. I feel sometimes that when people debate religion, some of the essence is lost. My best advice to you is read the Bible with an open mind and heart and God will do the rest.

If you have all ready read it, then this is a great place to expose yourself to many interpretations and only you can choose the ones that fit within the context of how the Bible illustrates it's case.
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Old 05-11-2008, 09:16 PM
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God made a Prophet "Manifest". He did not manifest Himself anymore than He already has. "God the Most Manifest of the Manifest, Most Hidden of the Hidden."

I agree that Jesus is the closest thing man can perceive to God, as was Moses, or Muhammed, or Buddha or Baha`u'llah or any of the others.

God does not pour Himself into the form of a man and remain God, one cannot pour the waters of the earth into a teacup--one just gets an almost full teacup (some will be lost to the effects of splashing) and a huge puddle. The puddle remains God and the teacup stays a teacup.

On the other hand any human spirit filled to that point with the Holy SPirit will appear to be God. So we are not arguing as much as you think.

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Who do you feel is going to sit at the right hand of the Father?
I don't believe God has physical hands.

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Ok scott-- who is the Father's "second in command".
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Ok scott-- who is the Father's "second in command".
What need does God have for assistance?

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Revelation 3:12
All who are victorious will become pillars in the Temple of my God, and they will never have to leave it. And I will write my God's name on them, and they will be citizens in the city of my God--the new Jerusalem that comes down from heaven from my God. And they will have my new name inscribed upon them.

He explicitly informs John he has a god. I'm quite sure John did not take him to mean he was God.

If Yeshua is God then at this point there should be no statements made like this. Regardless of how you try to spin it....In John 20:17 way before your mis-interpreted John 20:28 Yeshua tells the women he has a god..("But go find my brothers and tell them that I am ascending to my Father and your Father, my God and your God.")....then as you can see right here...after the ascension he flat out says it THREE times he has a god.

NO...Yeshua is not God, he did not claim to be, he did not teach that he was, nor did his followers believe that he was.....
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Are you helping God?
To some degree, yes. Not that He needs my particular help, the will of God cannot be thwarted. I am one of His servants and I abide by His will--as best I understand it.

That does not mean He NEEDS anything at all. He is The Self-Subsistent.

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To some degree, yes. Not that He needs my particular help, the will of God cannot be thwarted. I am one of His servants and I abide by His will--as best I understand it.

That does not mean He NEEDS anything at all. He is The Self-Subsistent.

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than why does he need prayers, submission or prophets ?
and i suppose you are going to say its not for him/her/it its for us, then to what end does he need us. if he is the self subsistent
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