What do you feel is wrong with atheism? (beliefs, atheist)

[Fluffy]

To dopp and Willamena,
Sorry I wrote a longer response to the both of you but I feel that this single question would get my point across much better:

Do you believe that an objectified God exists or does not exist?

Originally Posted by gnomon

Philosophy, for the most part, is sitting around and playing with yourself.

Them be fighting words!

Originally Posted by penguino

Some like to blame the worlds problems on religion.

A problem not limited to atheists surely? What is the difference between an atheist going "all religions are wrong" and a Christian going "all religions + atheism are wrong"?

You: What is wrong with theism?
Me: Some theists have really bad B.O.
You: But so do some atheists!
Me: Yeah but my nose happens to dislike theist B.O. that little bit more for some completely arbitrary reason that of course has absolutely nothing to do with my own personal alignments and biases.

[Rolling_Stone]

Originally Posted by Willamena

That's not a problem, it's an excuse.

That's similar to what I thought last year, but since then I'm concluded that until they realize the unconceptualized God, they are still indulging the idol.

Originally Posted by Willamena

That's not really a problem, or it doesn't have to be. The "finite assumptions of duality" do not differ from the "infinite" of unity (or to put it another way, "Form does not differ from emptiness").

Can't disagree with either.

Originally Posted by Fluffy

To dopp and Willamena,
Do you believe that an objectified God exists or does not exist?

I hope you don't mind me getting in on this. It's a tough question. I don't know.

Reality at its most fundamental level cannot possibly exist as a duality, but the instant we take leave from the absolute unity of infinity we observe the existence of two realities, self and other, and recognize a third, the One in which all things consist. Having thus departed from the absolute unity of unqualified infinity, we must postulate preexistent WILL as the impetus of departure and MIND as the inevitable technique of unifying the ever-widening divergence of universe manifestations of the original monistic First Source. Yet, it remains that to acknowledge anything other than the First Source as fundamentally realis false.

[Somkid]

The only criticism of atheism I have is more about some atheist. Some atheists tend to get over bearing and become almost as radical as the fundamentalists of theistic religions, it's just way over board.

[frg001]

You can't group atheists in this way. It is irrelevant. It's like asking what is wrong with a-SantaClausists. We are all completely different, EXCEPT we do not believe in a big guy with a beard (or whatever).

You can ask the question about a specific religion as they have 'rulebooks' .
Atheists are not a group in themselves. They are those who do not fall within any of the 'abovementioned' groups.

I know many atheists who I seriously dislike, and many RC-Christians and Muslims (both religions which I detest), who I love to bits.

[Jeremiah]

Originally Posted by Somkid

The only criticism of atheism I have is more about some atheist. Some atheists tend to get over bearing and become almost as radical as the fundamentalists of theistic religions, it's just way over board.

I think it would be more accurate if you said some people instead of some atheist. I feel that type of behavior is most likely a result of personality instead of philosophical stance.

[Jaiket]

Originally Posted by Blentyn chan Celi

So Communism has no promise?

I think it has.

[frg001]

Originally Posted by Jeremiah

I think it would be more accurate if you said some people instead of some atheist. I feel that type of behavior is most likely a result of personality instead of philosophical stance.

Again. Atheism is simply ONE of someones beliefs.
I am anti-monarchy so I am pro-republic
I am anti-death sentence.
I do not believe in a god
I am pro-choice.
etc.

Just because there are many different flavours of theism, it doesn't make it ANY more important than any other things on that list - (to me), it is simply ONE of many possible thoughts...You do, or do not believe in a theistic god, or for so-called agnostics...you sit on the fence.

[Jeremiah]

Originally Posted by frg001

Again. Atheism is simply ONE of someones beliefs.
I am anti-monarchy so I am pro-republic
I am anti-death sentence.
I do not believe in a god
I am pro-choice.
etc.

Just because there are many different flavours of theism, it doesn't make it ANY more important than any other things on that list - (to me), it is simply ONE of many possible thoughts...You do, or do not believe in a theistic god, or for so-called agnostics...you sit on the fence.

I don't understand your point in relation to my post maybe you could clarify. My only point was that I feel overzealous behavior is more closely related to a certain type of personality than to theistic or atheistic outlook.

[Somkid]

Originally Posted by Jeremiah

I think it would be more accurate if you said some people instead of some atheist. I feel that type of behavior is most likely a result of personality instead of philosophical stance.

Yes, I believe you are correct. I'm an atheist but I don't preach it and I could care less that "God" is in the pledge to the flag of my country, the 10 commandments in courthouses are another thing well, they can keep "shall not murder&qu