What do you feel is wrong with atheism? (beliefs, atheist)

[Willamena]

Originally Posted by Rolling_Stone

hehe. It philosophical difficulties, mostly. Infinity implies indivisibility of reality and, like materialism, can't explain diversity in this context, much less consciousness of diversity.

Note: Posts following mine only confirm my assessment of atheism's bias and self-centeredness.

Atheists should learn what religion is about before talking about it.

And yet, infinity still seems to imply diversity of reality and the divisibilty of consciousness. Go figure.

[GadFly]

Originally Posted by L0gic

And alot can be said about the weakness in christianity. No belief is perfect and christianity is no exception. It's pointless to try and get someone to believe in something they don't want to. It'd be pointless for me to get you to believe there is no god, and likewise, pointless for you to make me believe in your god.

You have to get through your head that you're not better than anyone else. An "intellectual" review of an atheist from your view is likely to butcher things up, so by your perspective it will be seen as wrong. It's likely to be too subjective and yet again, pointless. You'd have to view it objectively, and from your post, I doubt that would be the case.

This can go on and on. You say that christians won't believe in atheist's lies, and some atheists say you continue to believe in your lies. It goes around and around in a never-ending circle where there will be no winner as it's too subjective. You may think you're the winner, and an atheist may think their a winner. However, from another person's objective view, it's likely that nobody will have won and this accusation of lies will simply continue over and over again.

I hope you have better things to do in life than to put yourself in a never-ending circle. That's my two cents.

You offer a very good two cents. There was sarcasm in my suggestion for an intellectual review of what I had written. From what has been handed out by the atheist selots on this forum, it was surprising to receive an intelligent reply. You are very correct that a debate leading to who lies is headed for a continual circle where no body wins.

Your sarcaisum was very well taken also. The GadFly does appear to be better in this debate than the selots that oppose God. The first error you make is in a seemingly truthful statement you make that most fair minded people would accept: " No belief is perfect and christianity is no exception." Well said. This is true about all world religions. We give you this point. GadFly does not know of a perfect religion. Our debate, however, is not about religion - it's the God Factor. Welcome to your first introduction to atheistic logic. By changing your premise to religion instead of God, you do change the subject of debate. Is this what you meant by butchering things up?

We do agree here:" It's pointless to try and get someone to believe in something they don't want to." Why do atheist bother to argue the point there is no God? Theist argue because Christians do not want people to overlook that there is a God. Atheist can not state a valid reason to not believe, yet, they do not believe. Now, Mr. LOgic, how logical is that? That is a question that only atheistic logic can answer.

The GadFly will not form an opinion of you yet. but, I hope it was the truth and not an untruth that you hoped that I have better things to do with my life than be trapped in a circle. The atheist and me, around and around, trapped for life. Perhaps you will share some truth with us that will help break the circle of unbelief?The problem here is that atheist don't believe in truth, but thanks for sharing.
GadFly

[Papersock]

Originally Posted by GadFly

The problem here is that atheist don't believe in truth, but thanks for sharing.

What do you mean atheists don't believe in truth? What kind of truth are you talking about?

[UnTheist]

Originally Posted by Papersock

What do you mean atheists don't believe in truth? What kind of truth are you talking about?

His kind of truth

[Willamena]

Originally Posted by Papersock

What do you mean atheists don't believe in truth? What kind of truth are you talking about?

Obviously he's talking about his truth.

[Rolling_Stone]

Originally Posted by Willamena

And yet, infinity still seems to imply diversity of reality and the divisibilty of consciousness. Go figure.

That's the point atheists and pantheists miss.

[GadFly]

Originally Posted by The Voice of Reason

This entire post is riddled with so many logical fallacies, I don't know where to start.

When you claim that good behaviour is based on Christian ethics, you lose any chance of claiming credibility.

I re-read your post, and there isn't a single paragraph in which you don't paint with such a broad brush that the points you are trying to make are lost in the rant.

If you wish to make an argument against atheism, please try to limit your diatribe to a single point. You'll probably still be out in left field, but at least the reader will have a decent chance to follow your argument.

Another good example of atheistic logic. Thank you for the object lesson. Care to point out 2 0r 3 fallacies? Can't recognizes the self evident truth, can you? we live in the USA, the land of Christian ethics. Try to get a job in a bank and first tell them you do not believe in Christian ethics. How much credibility do you think you will gain in the bank or many other places in the real world with your atheistic logic? This forum is not a representation of real life nor is your philosophy of life. Use the broad brush theory to sweep the rubbish out of the thinking process of atheist. To be able to critiques an argument with out presenting a single point of view is an amazing feat. How do you do that?
GadFly
GadFly

[GadFly]

Originally Posted by Papersock

What do you mean atheists don't believe in truth? What kind of truth are you talking about?

You first.
Explain the different types of truth and I will choose one.
GadFly

[camanintx]

Originally Posted by GadFly

we live in the USA, the land of Christian ethics.

What are "Christian" ethics and how do they differ from other ethics?