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Old 01-23-2008, 03:05 PM
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Atheists don't like children.
You clearly haven't had them fried with barbeque sauce.
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Old 01-23-2008, 03:11 PM
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Old 01-23-2008, 03:19 PM
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Mmmm deep fried mars bar .
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Old 01-23-2008, 03:40 PM
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Atheism is based on the same fallacy as theism - the objectification of "God" as a thing such that one can talk about whether this imagined thing does or does not exist.
Not all atheist are derived from the topic of God. Atheism can be derived from a path of philosophical thinking or simply be a byproduct of personality. I believe that is why they have the terms weak and strong atheist. But I think it largely depends on the environment that the individual grew up in. If the atheist grows up in a religious setting then they will most likely make their deduction base off religious context. If the atheist grows up in a non religious setting then more likely the question of god never arise before a innate "seeing is believing" attitude sets in and they naturally reject the idea of God later in life.
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I don't think the term atheist means that some one believes in nothing. I was thinking more in the terms of not believing in a creator or supreme being. As in man being in total control of his destiny even though we know man is not responsible for his existance. do you believe in philosopy, science, etc.
Actually, no. I do not believe in philosophy or science.

I accept the methods of science as a valid means for modeling nature. It is an evidenced based means of acquiring knowledge.

Philosophy, for the most part, is sitting around and playing with yourself.
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Old 01-23-2008, 03:46 PM
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The fallacy is not in believing, not believing or disbelieving in an object, but in considering "God" an object at all (idolatry). The atheist, whether they "have no belief" or just disbelieve, has indulged the fallacy of considering the objectifyed "God."
No, as an atheist I do not consider God an object. By defining every term as an object, an individual is left with an inescapable philosophical dilemma rather than focusing on the truth. That a definition is not an object.

Saying atheists engage in fallacious reasoning based on the notion of objectifying God is nothing more than equivocation.
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No, as an atheist I do not consider God an object. By defining every term as an object, an individual is left with an inescapable philosophical dilemma rather than focusing on the truth. That a definition is not an object.

Saying atheists engage in fallacious reasoning based on the notion of objectifying God is nothing more than equivocation.
Or grammar.
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Or grammar.
I see myself slipping down the road of semantics again.
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