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Old 05-18-2008, 06:39 PM
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Im happy if you think that you are. (calling me names must make you feel superior)

But atheist very rarely can face reality. The reality that god exists. And so that is why i have a problem with a person that does not believe that god exists. Its like talking to someone that has very little understanding of very few things that mattter.

Heneni
I'm happy if you think that you are right. (calling others names must make you feel superior)

But theists very rarely can face reality. The reality that God doesn't exist. And so that is why I have a problem with a person who does believe that God exists. It's like talking to someone who has very little understanding of very few things that matter.
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Old 05-18-2008, 06:46 PM
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Im happy if you think that you are. (calling me names must make you feel superior)

But atheist very rarely can face reality. The reality that god exists. And so that is why i have a problem with a person that does not believe that god exists. Its like talking to someone that has very little understanding of very few things that mattter.

Heneni
Is this keyboard real?

Is this monitor real?

Am I real?

Is this doughnut real?

Let me check.


mmmmmmmmmmmmmm...........

It's real! It's real! At least I hope it was. I couldn't imagine a doughnut tasting so good.
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Old 05-19-2008, 06:58 AM
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Is this keyboard real?

Is this monitor real?

Am I real?

Is this doughnut real?

Let me check.


mmmmmmmmmmmmmm...........

It's real! It's real! At least I hope it was. I couldn't imagine a doughnut tasting so good.
Have you ever seen an electron? Yet you believe that electricity is real, because you can use it. Have you ever seen energy? Yet you believe that eating a chocolate will give you energy. Atheists believe many things which are invisible. Yet they are unwilling to believe in a god they can not see. The reason being, they cant see the manifestation of god in their everyday lives. And rightly so. If someone never believed that an electron is a possiblity we would never have looked for the evidence of such. If you dont believe god is real you wont look for the evidence either. Millions of people have found evidence that god is real. That evidence is enough for them. So if you havent found god yet, keep looking, look harder, and stop being afraid of what you might find.

I know god is real because he uses me.

heneni
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Have you ever seen an electron?
Yes. Researchers catch motion of a single electron on video
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Atheists believe many things which are invisible. Yet they are unwilling to believe in a god they can not see.
There is a difference between visible and detectable. The whole point of science is that we can use methods which allow us to detect the invisible and the inaudible and bring them into our lives in a way we can understand them. We cannot see a radio wave, but if we use a machine to detect and convert it into a visual image on a screen, we can!

Have you ever seen sound?
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Old 05-19-2008, 09:26 AM
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Hello hexa

Many christians have had experiences in their lives which would be evidence enough for them that god exists. If i told you god exists or if you told me god exists it does not make it anymore real or false.

Its what you experience yourself that is proof to you.

I think that atheist, are unwilling to believe in god, simply because he does not pop up and say hi. Yet they are willing to believe in many other things that they themselves have not seen, or that 'scientist' tell them exist. I dont think that any human is credeble enough to prove the existance of god to me. I can only believe what i have experienced in this regard.
But for a child of god, the reality that god exists is as real as the electron which they have not seen, or the energy they can not see. The effect of gods hand on their lives is irrefutable, and cannot be denied. In fact to deny it would be stupid.

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Hello hexa

I think that atheist, are unwilling to believe in god, simply because he does not pop up and say hi.

Heneni
I think it's the least to expect! =P

But seriously, I have looked for God. I've had a lot of moments where I really did want to find God, or for her to find me, but it didn't happen. I'm not doubting the honesty of people who believe they have experienced God, but the mind is very susceptible to delusion. Through my entire childhood I had an imaginary friend called Charles, he was awesome. I wonder what he's up to nowadays... =)
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Hello hexa

Many christians have had experiences in their lives which would be evidence enough for them that god exists. If i told you god exists or if you told me god exists it does not make it anymore real or false.

Its what you experience yourself that is proof to you.

I think that atheist, are unwilling to believe in god, simply because he does not pop up and say hi. Yet they are willing to believe in many other things that they themselves have not seen, or that 'scientist' tell them exist. I dont think that any human is credeble enough to prove the existance of god to me. I can only believe what i have experienced in this regard.
But for a child of god, the reality that god exists is as real as the electron which they have not seen, or the energy they can not see. The effect of gods hand on their lives is irrefutable, and cannot be denied. In fact to deny it would be stupid.

Heneni
The difference is that the stuff that science tells us exists makes much more sense logically. Also, if I wanted to, I could see anything that science says they've seen, as you could too. I could also look through an electron microscope and see what they see. I don't because that's not my focus in life. I will also see the exact same thing they do, as opposed to the mystical experiences people have and attribute them to anything from "God" to a plant.
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