Protelyzing? (beliefs, pagan, catholic, God, Christian)

[Victor]

Originally Posted by Mr Spinkles

I don't know if what this teacher is doing is illegal or not, but any teacher who spends 10-15 minutes a day preaching his views (whatever they are) to the class, rather than teaching the curriculum or facilitating open discussion, is not a good teacher and ought to be fired.

Here here!

[Captain Civic]

I agree that it should be equal. The ideas presented can be anti-Christian/anti-whatever as long as the pro-whatever side is shown as well. If it's just anti-whatever, then absolutely. It shouldn't be allowed.

Announcing a person's views and giving students an equal opportunity to take in both sides of the story are two completely different things.

[Mister Emu]

At the start of the article, I was right there with you, but then I realized that these were highschool students he was teaching, and that changes things a bit. While I don't think he should be pushing any sort of personal agenda on his students, by the time kids have reached highschool, I think they should be exposed to all sorts of opposing viewpoints, and that their beliefs should absolutely be subject to questioning. It's how we grow as people.

Would you be okay if he spent time praising Jesus, talking about how great God is, and said that only when you have Jesus can you see the truth?

[Nanda]

Originally Posted by Mister Emu

Would you be okay if he spent time praising Jesus, talking about how great God is, and said that only when you have Jesus can you see the truth?

Not at the Kindergarten level, but again, by highschool, it's different. I had teachers telling me their personal opinions all the time in highschool, and many times I did not agree. It's preparation for the real world. (And anyway, there's already God in the pledge of allegiance, prayer at graduation and sporting events, a moment of silence every day, Christmas pageants. The Christian god is present even in secular schools.)

[Nanda]

Originally Posted by Victor

And you think this should happen in say......a math class? Or how about Language Arts?

I don't think it really matters when it happens.

[Nanda]

Originally Posted by athanasius

Of course that sounds boring to you your a liberal with a agenda to whine.That is your opinion as well as alot of liberals opinion because they love to whine. I can't myself wait for a liberal president to get into office just so the Libs stop whining. Im sick of it. My university doesn't focus on politics(which is a bunch of bologna anyway) we focus on the Classes that are taught and on real eternal things that are important and make more impact then presidents. Things like Jesus, faith, and theology.

Sounds to me like you're the one whining.

[methylatedghosts]

Originally Posted by Victor

And you think this should happen in say......a math class? Or how about Language Arts?

What if maths teachers generally had a different view than language arts teachers? If you don't ask them, you'll never find out!!

But seriously, I'm sure it's ok for a class to go way off topic a couple times in the entire year - everyone has opinions and views and I think that even though it's a maths teacher, she may be able to provide another view that no-one had thought of on a completely different topic. But of course if less than 95% of the year is maths teaching, then you should probably say something

I've had some GREAT discussions about many a topic with all my teachers in high school, at least 4 times per year with each teacher. They really were a great bunch and I hope all teachers are like that. Sure, we may not have learnt anything on the curriculum for those 4 hours in the year, but we definately learnt a whole lot more that has nothing to do with any curriculum in any class.

[Mike182]

Originally Posted by athanasius

Of course that sounds boring to you your a liberal with a agenda to whine.That is your opinion as well as alot of liberals opinion because they love to whine. I can't myself wait for a liberal president to get into office just so the Libs stop whining. Im sick of it. My university doesn't focus on politics(which is a bunch of bologna anyway) we focus on the Classes that are taught and on real eternal things that are important and make more impact then presidents. Things like Jesus, faith, and theology.

to me, a university, a place of education, learning and academia, would be boring without intellectual topics like politics. politics govern everything, form the politics of our own friendship groups and relationships, to national politics and legislation etc. maybe that is drifting more into sociology than politics, but still, why would a place devoted to education and academia completely ignore politics?

if you only want to go at it from a Christian perspective, many Christian preachers preach on the subject of politics, how society should be, how to fix society,and many of the more fundamental preachers focus on the middle eastern politics of Israel and it's surrounding nations.

like i said, i just don't understand why a university would actively choose to not provide lectures in politics.

oh yeah, where was i whining? where did i say liberals should be in power (though i certainly think they should)? the only agenda i have is... let me see, what do i want again? something about ending discrimination? helping those less fortunate in society? yes, i freely admit that is my agenda. and that is relevant to this topic how?

[Victor]

Originally Posted by Nanda

I don't think it really matters when it happens.

Then may God Bless those teachers that can manage talking about God and still end up teaching what the class is actually about. People go to a math class to learn about Math.