Chrisitans: The Trinity vs Godhead and Justice vs Mercy (Jesus Christ, salvation)

[Scott C.]

Originally Posted by Katzpur

When you stop and think about it, "God" is not a name at all. I don't know very many Christians (if any at all), who would say that the Father's name is "Jesus." For that reason, I think that when we say, "in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost" we are not using the word "name" to mean what I would mean if I were to say, "Hi, Scotty!" It makes perfect sense to me to think of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost as sharing a single title, that title being "God." When I use the word "God," I can be referring to any one of the three individually or to all three collectively. Since their unity of will, purpose, mind and heart is so perfect and so absolute, I cannot worship one of them without simultaneously worshipping all three of them. It's all one Godhead, and if you look up the word "Godhead" in the dictionary, you'll find that it is a synonym for "God."

Well said!

[Somkid]

Originally Posted by madhatter85

I propose also that God Must indeed choose Justice, that it is an eternal law by which even God himself is bound.

What justice, where do you see justice in the world? The God of the bible is not bound by any of his own rules or anything that is logically universally true such as thou shall not kill, love thy neighbor, mercy, etc. let alone the physical laws of the universe that this God is said to have created.

I fail to understand why people think as you would suggest you can not hold god to his own standards as he breaks his own laws time and time again so it is only fair to conclude that people worship god out of fear rather then because god is virtuous.

[nutshell]

Originally Posted by Somkid

What justice, where do you see justice in the world? The God of the bible is not bound by any of his own rules or anything that is logically universally true such as thou shall not kill, love thy neighbor, mercy, etc. let alone the physical laws of the universe that this God is said to have created.

I fail to understand why people think as you would suggest you can not hold god to his own standards as he breaks his own laws time and time again so it is only fair to conclude that people worship god out of fear rather then because god is virtuous.

It's a matter of POV. He only breaks his own law from your perspective. Maybe if you give an example I can explain better.

[Mestemia]

Thou shalt not bear false witness.

1 Kg.22:23
"Now, therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee."

2 Chr.18:22
"Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets."

Jer.20:7
"O Lord, thou hast deceived me, and I was deceived."

Ezek.14:9
"And if a prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet."

2 Th.2:11
"For this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie."