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Old 12-10-2007, 09:22 PM
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Now then, God makes little or no distinction between types of sin. All sin inherits death, be it the action you described or 'lesser' ones.
Does God see all sins the same?
No. And the reason for my answering no is simply because some sins are to be dealt out hasher punishment than others.

Why would certain sins require death (Exo 22:18; Exo 19:12; Num 15:36; Exo 21:17) while others merely get told that the sinner and up to ten generations after merely cannot enter into the congregation (Deu 23:2; Exo 12:19)?

What of those who were to be burnt (Gen 38:24; Lev 20:14; Lev 21:9; Jer 29:22; Eze 23:25; Dan 3:19-23)

Or those who were "put under the saw", or made to walk through fire( 2Sa 12:31)

Or those who were striped ( Deu 25:3 )

Scourged with thorns (Jdg_8:16.)

mutilated (Jdg 1:6; 2Ma 7:4; 2Sa 4:12)

imprisoned, exiled or had things confiscated (Ezr 7:26; Jer 37:15; Jer 38:6; Act 4:3; Act 5:18; Act 12:4; 1Ki 2:26; 1Ki 2:36-38)

Due compensation was yet another punishment for sin ( Exo 21:18-36; Lev 24:18-21; Deu 19:21)

Stoning was rather popular (Lev 20:2; Lev 20:27; Lev 24:14; Num 14:10; Num 15:33-36; Deu 13:10; Deu 17:5; Deu 22:21; Deu 22:24; Jos 7:25; 1Ki 21:10; Eze 16:40)

Crucificion (Mat 27:35; Mat 27:38; Mar 15:24; Mar 15:27; Luk 23:33)

Beheadings (Mat 14:10; Mar 6:16; Mar 6:27; Mar 6:28)

Scourging (Lev 19:20; Deu 22:18; Deu 25:2; Deu 25:3; Pro 17:10; Pro 19:29; Pro 20:30; Mat 27:26; Mar 15:15; Luk 23:16; Joh 19:1; Act 22:24; Act 22:29)

Even hanging is mentioned (Num 25:4; 2Sa 21:6; 2Sa 21:9; Gen 40:22; Deu 21:22; Deu 21:23; Jos 8:29).



If all sin is equal why all the differing punishments?
If all sin was equal then there would only need to be one punishment.
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Old 12-10-2007, 09:35 PM
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If all sin is equal why all the differing punishments?
If all sin was equal then there would only need to be one punishment.
They are all still very harsh punishments.
But yeah, I agree.
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If all sin is equal why all the differing punishments?
If all sin was equal then there would only need to be one punishment.
All sin has the same ultimate punishment. It goes back to Genesis where eternal life was denied. The stuff you are talking about is the here and now stuff, not the big picture stuff. No amount of ritualistic laws and atonement in the temple could eliminate death. For christians anyway, Jesus was the final sacrifce.
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Old 12-10-2007, 09:43 PM
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There are varying degrees of sin and righteousness, just as there are varying degrees of heaven and hell.

Inspiration from God has confirmed there are varying degrees of hell and heaven.
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I believe that not all sin are the same in Allah's view. There are the sins one commits against Allah's law, and there are sins one commit against fellow humans. Allah is typically more lenient on the sins commit in regard to His own law between you and Him, and is typically more harsh regarding the rights and dealings from one person to another.

I do believe as FFH has stated that there are varying degrees of righteousness and evil, as well as heaven and hell. Different sins that are punishable in the afterlife will dictate what kind of punishment and the duration of said punishment one will receive. Heaven also has these levels as some people are more pious than others. In Quran one can find varied descriptions of the types of righteousness one can display, as well as describing the different kinds of evil one can display.
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varying degrees of heaven and hell?
Yes, most definitely.

Let me see if I can pull up an inspired example.
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Old 12-10-2007, 10:33 PM
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The teachings on the varying degrees of hell are found here somewhere, or maybe I read it on another page, can't remember where exactly, read it a few months back, but it was a teaching from Mary, to these visionaries of hell and it's varying degrees.

Our prayers and our forgiveness towards those who have offended us help redeem many from hell and help them progress through the varying degrees of hell until they are completely free from that aweful place.

Inspired Messages and Teachings of Mary, the Mother of Christ, Given to Six Visionaries in Medjugorje, Bosnia 1981 - present

Christ saves all from hell, eventually, "except those Son's of Perdition," those who have have "denied the Holy Ghost,' and put Christ to an "open shame."
LDS doctrine also teaches of the varying degrees of heaven.

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Does God see all sins the same?
No.

I can accept, for the sake of discussion, a theistic Creator God and the existence of sin. However, any being that can't tell the difference between a little white lie to spare someone's feelings and child-rape is my moral inferior, and therefore not God.
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