Anybody: What do you think about extra-terrestrials? (Earth, God, verse)

[shadow_fire]

Originally Posted by Buttercup

I'm doubtful of the existence of ET's but would like to be proven wrong.

If ET's exist and know about us, it's fairly obvious we don't interest them much. Or, perhaps they are so advanced they have made contact but we have no clue they've even been here.

Just because we haven't made contact with them doesn't refute there existence. Given the chance of our existence and the fact that space is limitless we can easily conclude that ET's are too far away for us to ever contact, but just as we are real, they are real.

[Buttercup]

Originally Posted by shadow_fire

just as we are real, they are real.

And, your proof for this sentence is where?

[shadow_fire]

Originally Posted by Buttercup

And, your proof for this sentence is where?

I find it funny how you cut out the rest of my message.


First I must ask you, do you believe in Evolution or Creationism? If you believe in Creationism then you will either not accept what I try to explain to you, or....well lets just say our conversation will go nowhere. Unless you believe in science and probability over belief.

[Buttercup]

Originally Posted by shadow_fire

I find it funny how you cut out the rest of my message.

I quoted the part of your sentence I thought was relevant to what I wanted to ask you.

First I must ask you, do you believe in Evolution or Creationism?

Used to be creationism but now it's evolution.

If you believe in Creationism then you will either not accept what I try to explain to you, or....well lets just say our conversation will go nowhere. Unless you believe in science and probability over belief.

I don't see how this statement ties in with belief in evolution and ET's. Where's the science concerning the statistical probability of the existence of ET's?

At this point in time, I see belief in ET's pretty much the same as belief in a deity...it's all about faith because there's zero proof.

[shadow_fire]

Heres where I base my belief in ET's buttercup, this should answer your other questions. (if you feel I do not address anything, or do not address it well enough, feel free to call me on it)

Well we all evolved from pre-existing things and the chances of our creation are so amazingly low to happen in one place (this is where probability comes into play) this also starts to support the...I'd call it a fact that space is limitless.

Since space is limitless that means that the same events (or similar events) MUST of happened several billions...screw billions, a number not even invented is more accurate...well lets just go with infinity times over.

Do you understand what I'm try to explain to you? or have any objections to this? (I want to be as clear as I can to you as I can) Sorry if I sound bitter, if I do then that is in no way my intention.

[Buttercup]

Originally Posted by shadow_fire

Well we all evolved from pre-existing things and the chances of our creation are so amazingly low to happen in one place (this is where probability comes into play) this also starts to support the...I'd call it a fact that space is limitless.

Are you talking about the theory of panspermia here? I'm not really getting your direction with the first part of the sentence.

Since space is limitless that means that the same events (or similar events) MUST of happened several billions...screw billions, a number not even invented is more accurate...well lets just go with infinity times over.

Is this your theory or do you have science links to back it up perhaps?

[shadow_fire]

I'm not well acquainted enough with panspermia to say for sure if thats what I mean. I'm basically saying that the chances of what we have today are very slim, despite which specific theory you would like to use.

Well, do you believe that space isn't endless? I fail to see why I need to bring specific science links into the matter unless you believe that space is some how contained (and if its contained then whats on the other side?)

Unless of course your asking if I read about this, or concluded this myself. If that is what your asking, then yes I did conclude it myself through basic logic.

[silvermoon383]

How is a different form of life a mockery of God's creation? No offense FFH but you're starting to remind me of a New Morality member from Ben Bova's Grand Tour books.