Does God exist? (YmirGF 'perspective of a single person' vs 'Islam: World Major religion') (zealous, atheist)

[summia]

Originally Posted by YmirGF

If I am the Satan that Mary23 says I am... do you really want to go there with me? Summia,

Yeah1 really i wish to debate you, because Mary think so. but i think you are not Satan...
lol......
yet Satan is in you....
If this Satan will leave you then you will be a pure and respectful person! Thats my words!

Originally Posted by YmirGF

I have said it before and I will say it again. I LIKE YOU. You seem to be an intelligent person albeit a teensy overzealous but I am fairly used to that.

Thanx for honor!

Originally Posted by YmirGF

I will even give you a handicap (which is a few free points at the start of an enterprise -- usually done in a game like golf) This is the "handicap": I agree to debate you and I promise I will remain on topic. You have my word on it.

That's nice!

Originally Posted by YmirGF

You are welcome to use ANY and ALL references to prove the existence of God. I promise I will not cite ANY reference works whatsoever. My responses will be mine alone. SO, you have all the religions texts and scriptures of man to draw from and I have only the perceptions of a single person.

Its rather stupitness to match references with a single personal views!
Well, I'm on it!

Originally Posted by YmirGF

you must pay more attention to detail. What started this whole charade is when I clearly stated that no one had ever proven the existence of God.

I have not seen God, Although none seen Him!
When we believe in God/His existence, then surly it means we have evidences in our common sense!
before start, I wish to ask just a little wonder in you Sir Paul (YmirGF)!

Do you believe in existence of God without proofs/evidences?

[ChristineES]

I doubt there is a believer(whether Christian, Muslim, Hindu, or whatever) that can convince an nontheist that there is a God. Most atheists I have known are very decent people and just want to live their lives. But unfortunately there are some atheists who not only not believe in God, but don't want anyone else to believe in Him either. The really strange thing is that they are so against anyone trying to "convert" them, yet they try to "convert" people not to believe in God. It is a double standard that really gets on my nerves. I have absolutely nothing against the atheists who want to understand religion even if they don't believe in it.

I have proof for myself that God exists, but not the kind of proof that would convince an atheist. I don't even try.

[Blindinglight]

Do you believe in existence of God without proofs/evidences?

I have seen and felt the presences of my Gods. Perhaps the question then does not apply to me.

[summia]

Originally Posted by Blindinglight

I have seen and felt the presences of my Gods. Perhaps the question then does not apply to me.

Yeah! not apply to you, but YmirGF challenged me, no one has proved God!

[summia]

Originally Posted by ChristineES

I doubt there is a believer(whether Christian, Muslim, Hindu, or whatever) that can convince an nontheist that there is a God. Most atheists I have known are very decent people and just want to live their lives. But unfortunately there are some atheists who not only not believe in God, but don't want anyone else to believe in Him either. The really strange thing is that they are so against anyone trying to "convert" them, yet they try to "convert" people not to believe in God. It is a double standard that really gets on my nerves. I have absolutely nothing against the atheists who want to understand religion even if they don't believe in it.

I agreed with you!
But still there are some people who believe that God exists but no one can prove that God has exists!
Thats one and only YmirGf here!

Originally Posted by ChristineES

I have proof for myself that God exists, but not the kind of proof that would convince an atheist. I don't even try.

Yeah! I also say nothing for athiests, you are right!
but still YmirGF challenged me, he said,

Originally Posted by YmirGF

Summia, you must pay more attention to detail. What started this whole charade is when I clearly stated that no one had ever proven the existence of God. At no time did I say that God does not exist. .

[YmirGF]

Hehe. Ok Summia, I am working in the garden at the moment so I can't stay, but I will emphatically state that there is no being such as Satan. Plain and simple. Can you provide indesputable proof, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Satan exists? And no, I do not believe in evil either.

In the spirit of Arnies famous words, "I'll be back."

[rojse]

Originally Posted by ChristineES

I doubt there is a believer(whether Christian, Muslim, Hindu, or whatever) that can convince an nontheist that there is a God. Most atheists I have known are very decent people and just want to live their lives. But unfortunately there are some atheists who not only not believe in God, but don't want anyone else to believe in Him either. The really strange thing is that they are so against anyone trying to "convert" them, yet they try to "convert" people not to believe in God. It is a double standard that really gets on my nerves. I have absolutely nothing against the atheists who want to understand religion even if they don't believe in it.

I have proof for myself that God exists, but not the kind of proof that would convince an atheist. I don't even try.

I agree that the example that you give is bad, but I also agree that any religious person who is against being converted, but tries to convert other people to their religion, is bad too. It's a two-way street.

[wednesday]

^ Trying to convert Christians back to atheism is as pointless as trying to convert an athiest to Christianity, they are both as ignorant as eachother in terms of the beliefs. To a point above stating that satan doesn't exist. I assume that person does not believe in a God either? My personal conception is that if a God provided a reward for good behaviour, he would provide punishment for bad behaviour, make sense? No one can prove God exists, its what they believe. Trying to argue one way or another just stupid, you just cant argue something that isnt a fact.

[summia]

Originally Posted by YmirGF

Hehe. Ok Summia, I am working in the garden at the moment so I can't stay, but I will emphatically state that there is no being such as Satan. Plain and simple. Can you provide indesputable proof, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Satan exists? And no, I do not believe in evil either.

In the spirit of Arnies famous words, "I'll be back."

You lose your words Sir Paul!

We are not discussing Satan here! and you promised me to stay with the topic of discussion!

OKay! this time, I ignored but take care later! you hav your word on it!

Hav a good gardening!

[summia]

Originally Posted by wednesday

^ Trying to convert Christians back to atheism is as pointless as trying to convert an athiest to Christianity, they are both as ignorant as eachother in terms of the beliefs. To a point above stating that satan doesn't exist. I assume that person does not believe in a God either? My personal conception is that if a God provided a reward for good behaviour, he would provide punishment for bad behaviour, make sense? No one