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Old 08-13-2007, 05:25 PM
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If a person persecutes you, it may help to remember that they are in the wrong.
I'll try to remember that the next time the Christian demonstrators come to campus and use their hate speech to incite anti-gay sentiment that results in an increase in anti-gay acts and crimes on campus that makes life for LGBT students on an already homophobic campus more of a living hell.

Or... I'll try to remember that the next time I see someone I know crying because their Christian parents emotionally and/or physically abuse them because they are LGBT.

Or... I'll try to remember that the next time I am or someone I know is chased down, beat up, harrassed, etc. because they are LGBT.


Please.
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Old 08-13-2007, 05:26 PM
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I have never actually been persecuted personally, so I cannot really know what it is like. I have had racial slurs told to my face (I am half native American and the person called me the s word meant for Spanish and Mexicans) and I was really very upset by it. I can't imagine if something like this happened all the time, but I would not like it.
As I have said repeatedly, it doesn't matter if someone thinks what you do is a sin or not, they still have no right to harass you or hurt you in any way. I am very sorry that some people still choose to do this. All I can say that it is wrong according to my faith and I would never condone it.
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Old 08-13-2007, 05:28 PM
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I'll try to remember that the next time the Christian demonstrators come to campus and use their hate speech to incite anti-gay sentiment that results in an increase in anti-gay acts and crimes on campus that makes life for LGBT students on an already homophobic campus more of a living hell.

Or... I'll try to remember that the next time I see someone I know crying because their Christian parents emotionally and/or physically abuse them because they are LGBT.

Or... I'll try to remember that the next time I am or someone I know is chased down, beat up, harrassed, etc. because they are LGBT.


Please.
You really have no cause to be nasty to me. I am just one lowly person.
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Old 08-13-2007, 05:32 PM
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I have never actually been persecuted personally, so I cannot really know what it is like. I have had racial slurs told to my face (I am half native American and the person called me the s word meant for Spanish and Mexicans) and I was really very upset by it. I can't imagine if something like this happened all the time, but I would not like it.
As I have said repeatedly, it doesn't matter if someone thinks what you do is a sin or not, they still have no right to harass you or hurt you in any way. I am very sorry that some people still choose to do this. All I can say that it is wrong according to my faith and I would never condone it.
I know, Christine. I don't have a problem with you.

I just don't think some other Christians realize how hurtful it is when they, for example, compare us to alcoholoics or child molestors.

Even you Christine, have expressed that Christian attitudes toward us shouldn't bother us if we're not Christian. Maybe it shouldn't, but it does.
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Old 08-13-2007, 05:39 PM
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Even you Christine, have expressed that Christian attitudes toward us shouldn't bother us if we're not Christian. Maybe it shouldn't, but it does.
You are right, I think that statement may have been rather insensitive. Racism bothers me on a high level and I forget that this kind of prejudice can feel just as bad. Prejudice seems to stem from the belief that one person is superior to another just because of race, lifestyle or whatever.
I was told when I became upset at the racial slur not to let it bother me. I tried but it still hurt.
Prejudice is always wrong, no matter what. If you are sexist, racist, or hate people because they are fat, and many other things, can and is the cause of much strife.
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Old 08-13-2007, 05:45 PM
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You really have no cause to be nasty to me. I am just one lowly person.
I'm not trying to be nasty, it's just being told to recognize that those who "pursecute" are in the wrong and maybe it will somehow magically help one's situation...

a) is pointless because it's relatively obvious pursecution and discrimination are wrong.

b) is lackadaisical and does nothing to address or confront the source of, repurcussions of, etc. pursecution and discrimination.

c) can ben seen as insulting to one's intellect.
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Old 08-13-2007, 05:48 PM
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I'm not trying to be nasty, it's just being told to recognize that those who "pursecute" are in the wrong and maybe it will somehow magically help one's situation...

a) is pointless because it's relatively obvious pursecution and discrimination are wrong.

b) is lackadaisical and does nothing to address or confront the source of, repurcussions of, etc. pursecution and discrimination.

c) can ben seen as insulting to one's intellect.
I think by saying what I did I may have been unintentionally insensitive. I apologize if it offended you.
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Old 08-13-2007, 06:03 PM
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I think by saying what I did I may have been unintentionally insensitive. I apologize if it offended you.
Nah, you haven't offended me at all, so no worries.

It's just that I hear such remarks like that all the time (to just realize that they are in the wrong and such) that I feel it invalidates the feelings and experiences of those who have suffered from persecution, discrimination, and/or hate crimes that I tend to become immediately annoyed everytime it's suggested, hence the nasty appearance of my reply. I didn't mean anything personal in my response to you.
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