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Old 05-07-2004, 06:17 AM
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Mr.Spinkles believe in modern evolutionist faith is laughable.

Mutation happens as an accident and not in organized manner, so evolution had no purpose if it’s based upon mutations. The evolutionist of the century (according to Stephen Jay Gould) was Dr. Dobzhansky who experimented with flies. Mutations is lethal. Are unknown the perfected mutants. The flies which were resistant to DDT are in fact weaker and take more time to develop normally, they are less skilled. Bacteria which are more resistant …due to plasmids (pieces of circular DNA), not because of DNA mutation. The genes don’t change to resist the antibiotic, the solution is already ready from outside. The bacteria resistant to antibiotics in fact are less skilled. Almost 60% of the mutant Echeria Coli resistant to Streptomicine are DEPENDING on it, they don’t grow in areas free from the antibiotic. That means they are destroyed in environment in which required food ain’t available. There are near 6000 genetic diseases set in correspondent genes but no mutation increased the efficacy of a human protein. I won’t use Creationist arguments neither amateur “evolucionist faith”, you need to read Nobel prize winner, biologist researching penicillin , Ernst Chain in his “Was Darwin Wrong?”, 1982, page 50 or let’s say, Dr. Lee Spetner, scientist and professor in John Hopkins University. Not by chance he says “IN ALL READINGS I DID IN SCIENTIFIC BIOLOGY I NEVER FOUND A SINGLE MUTATION WHICH ADDED INFORMATION”, or perhaps you need urgently to read Pierre-Paul-Grasse who thinks pretty much the same. Errors in copies can’t increase information. Graham Cannon in his “The Evolution of Living Things” can help you too.
About 2500 genes form an eye and not by accident, casual in a chain of happy coincidences in the laws scientists trust without Law Giver (!). in 4,5 billion years. In Basel University, 1995, it was proved a gene of a rat was able to produce eyes in flies, therefore there’s a MASTER GENE which commands all the process in arthropods, squids, mammals, etc. But, how was it possible a gene was in the common ancestral of those animals if the own ancestral didn’t have any eyes???? It was a pre-Cambrian bacteria! It didn’t exist even the complex genetic system. Mutations are rare in a single gene, it’s even worst in various genes simultaneously.
A Professor in Massachussetts University, Lynn Margulis (respected by the theory of mitochondria once was independent cell) always asks in the conferences to molecular biologists an unmistakable example of a new specie created by accumulation of mutations. ABSOLUTE SILENCE is the response of the collegues. According to biologist George Gaylord, even in favorable conditions of evolution the po-si-bi-li-ty or pro-ba-bi-li-ty (attention attention, theory not fact) of 5 mutations in the same nucleus is 1 in 1022. In a 100 million human beings and the rate of 1 mutation per day for each generation, such “favorable” event it would be expected once every 247 billion years or 100 times the age of the Earth. Such process never existed in nature. Check G.G.Simpson “The Major Features in Evolution”, page 96. You can also read the genetic yoke according to H.J Muller (Radiation Damage to Genetic Material), Christopher Willis, (Genetic Load), Scientific American, Volume 222, March 1970, page 98. Murray Eden in “Mathematical Challenges to the Neo-Darwinian Interpretation of Evolution”, Moorhead & Kaplan, 1967, page 71. Encyclopedia Britannica , 1976 (Mutations).
Perhaps to 99.9 % of the readers swallowing without checking, you can convince them about evolution and Darwinism, etc, etc. I’ll rather use my photographic memory and the files I keep on accumulating to “digest” before swallowing. I don’t wanna throw up after. Ignorance ain’t a sin. Sinner is someone who in spite of being ignorant grabs to its orthodox dogmas repeated in books after books and refuses to learn and to think. Refuses to be curious and asks the ones who think they know. All of us are ignorant in different degrees.
www.sitchin.com/adam.htm
www.sitchin.com/images/adam1.jpg
www.sitchin.com/primate.htm
www.sitchin.com
(specially the last part of the latter)
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Old 05-07-2004, 06:17 AM
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Mr.Spinkles believe in modern evolutionist faith is laughable.

Mutation happens as an accident and not in organized manner, so evolution had no purpose if it’s based upon mutations. The evolutionist of the century (according to Stephen Jay Gould) was Dr. Dobzhansky who experimented with flies. Mutations is lethal. Are unknown the perfected mutants. The flies which were resistant to DDT are in fact weaker and take more time to develop normally, they are less skilled. Bacteria which are more resistant …due to plasmids (pieces of circular DNA), not because of DNA mutation. The genes don’t change to resist the antibiotic, the solution is already ready from outside. The bacteria resistant to antibiotics in fact are less skilled. Almost 60% of the mutant Echeria Coli resistant to Streptomicine are DEPENDING on it, they don’t grow in areas free from the antibiotic. That means they are destroyed in environment in which required food ain’t available. There are near 6000 genetic diseases set in correspondent genes but no mutation increased the efficacy of a human protein. I won’t use Creationist arguments neither amateur “evolucionist faith”, you need to read Nobel prize winner, biologist researching penicillin , Ernst Chain in his “Was Darwin Wrong?”, 1982, page 50 or let’s say, Dr. Lee Spetner, scientist and professor in John Hopkins University. Not by chance he says “IN ALL READINGS I DID IN SCIENTIFIC BIOLOGY I NEVER FOUND A SINGLE MUTATION WHICH ADDED INFORMATION”, or perhaps you need urgently to read Pierre-Paul-Grasse who thinks pretty much the same. Errors in copies can’t increase information. Graham Cannon in his “The Evolution of Living Things” can help you too.
About 2500 genes form an eye and not by accident, casual in a chain of happy coincidences in the laws scientists trust without Law Giver (!). in 4,5 billion years. In Basel University, 1995, it was proved a gene of a rat was able to produce eyes in flies, therefore there’s a MASTER GENE which commands all the process in arthropods, squids, mammals, etc. But, how was it possible a gene was in the common ancestral of those animals if the own ancestral didn’t have any eyes???? It was a pre-Cambrian bacteria! It didn’t exist even the complex genetic system. Mutations are rare in a single gene, it’s even worst in various genes simultaneously.
A Professor in Massachussetts University, Lynn Margulis (respected by the theory of mitochondria once was independent cell) always asks in the conferences to molecular biologists an unmistakable example of a new specie created by accumulation of mutations. ABSOLUTE SILENCE is the response of the collegues. According to biologist George Gaylord, even in favorable conditions of evolution the po-si-bi-li-ty or pro-ba-bi-li-ty (attention attention, theory not fact) of 5 mutations in the same nucleus is 1 in 1022. In a 100 million human beings and the rate of 1 mutation per day for each generation, such “favorable” event it would be expected once every 247 billion years or 100 times the age of the Earth. Such process never existed in nature. Check G.G.Simpson “The Major Features in Evolution”, page 96. You can also read the genetic yoke according to H.J Muller (Radiation Damage to Genetic Material), Christopher Willis, (Genetic Load), Scientific American, Volume 222, March 1970, page 98. Murray Eden in “Mathematical Challenges to the Neo-Darwinian Interpretation of Evolution”, Moorhead & Kaplan, 1967, page 71. Encyclopedia Britannica , 1976 (Mutations).
Perhaps to 99.9 % of the readers swallowing without checking, you can convince them about evolution and Darwinism, etc, etc. I’ll rather use my photographic memory and the files I keep on accumulating to “digest” before swallowing. I don’t wanna throw up after. Ignorance ain’t a sin. Sinner is someone who in spite of being ignorant grabs to its orthodox dogmas repeated in books after books and refuses to learn and to think. Refuses to be curious and asks the ones who think they know. All of us are ignorant in different degrees.
www.sitchin.com/adam.htm
www.sitchin.com/images/adam1.jpg
www.sitchin.com/primate.htm
www.sitchin.com
(specially the last part of the latter)
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Old 05-07-2004, 06:27 AM
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For the ones who like to post but really they don't like to know and really study but just repeat the superficial themes books after books and who "jump" the information in the internet, I suggest you to check the posting I did in the previous page, May 06, 5:39 pm. Check the couple of links. Everyone can stand afford or against something, everyone has an opinion like a butt, but how many people do really know what they are talking about, whether science or religion?
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Old 05-07-2004, 06:27 AM
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For the ones who like to post but really they don't like to know and really study but just repeat the superficial themes books after books and who "jump" the information in the internet, I suggest you to check the posting I did in the previous page, May 06, 5:39 pm. Check the couple of links. Everyone can stand afford or against something, everyone has an opinion like a butt, but how many people do really know what they are talking about, whether science or religion?
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Old 05-07-2004, 06:38 AM
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Not only Sumerian and Biblical account (and other myths) reveal the scientific aspect about the use of clay and a case of genetic endogamy (incest) in the case of Adam & Eve (bone and flesh of the same relative avoid inmunity rejection when a marrow transplant) but the detail about the rib (with the marrow creating blood and Adam is a name linked to blood, red and soul-live allowing breathing, nephesh and neshama in Hebrew) is astonishing. Rib is more irrigated by blood and have more cartilage. There's a lot the science is discovering NOW:
www.answersingenesis.org/docs/4145.asp
http://www.innovations-report.com/ht...ort-13412.html
www.hon.ch/News/HSN/514201.html
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Old 05-07-2004, 06:38 AM
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Not only Sumerian and Biblical account (and other myths) reveal the scientific aspect about the use of clay and a case of genetic endogamy (incest) in the case of Adam & Eve (bone and flesh of the same relative avoid inmunity rejection when a marrow transplant) but the detail about the rib (with the marrow creating blood and Adam is a name linked to blood, red and soul-live allowing breathing, nephesh and neshama in Hebrew) is astonishing. Rib is more irrigated by blood and have more cartilage. There's a lot the science is discovering NOW:
www.answersingenesis.org/docs/4145.asp
http://www.innovations-report.com/ht...ort-13412.html
www.hon.ch/News/HSN/514201.html
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Old 05-07-2004, 07:14 AM
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That statement 'look at the fossils at the museum' is an example of ignorance beyond imaginable. Wherever you check you'll see the parts of those creatures were already formed, no intermediary thing changing one thing into another specie in a hocus pocus magic imagined by Darwin before he knew what genetic has provided. Hence, what before was alleguedly done by daddy Chronus-Time in a deaf and dumb slow-motion evolution ...lacking evidence was changed into another -and convenient- formula called "macroevolution", that is, an evolution so fast that didn't require the evidence of specific fossils CHANGING one thing into another. In other words, since that happened so quick it wasn't required those fossils and we have to believe in such "gaps" or "missing links" without evidence. That's faith disguised as "science". As I explained before, mutations was the magic solution but it didn't help either cos 99% of the mutants are not the best example of survival of the most skilled, in fact are leftovers, things to be replaced and died. An albino, a giant, a being with two heads, leporine lips, Dawn syndrome repeating chromosome 21, hermafrodite poliploid with 6 fingers (probably black and giant and retarded) are mutants. Check 2 Samuel 21:18-22 as an example of a mutant.
Adaptation was confused with evolution but some idiotic people can't know the difference between one thing and another, they don't know the limits of the hybridation EVEN IN SIMILAR SPECIES (like lions and tigers or horses and donkeys producing tiglons or ligrons in the first case and mules in the second or the combinations between wolves and dogs and llamas and camels, etc) are limited by sterilization. So, Darwin's imbecility went saying the changes or "adaptations" would be so great that would jump the limits of DNA plan. That is ridiculous. Experiences bombing flies with gamma rays didn't change them into scorpions or spiders. They added eyes, set eyes on the wings, added a couple of feet or wings but by atavic law they got back to what they were in the next generations. So even with GENETIC ENGINEERING AND MANIPULATION TO DO SOMETHING NATURE NEVER DID WITH A DISTANT METEOR OR COMET, and continuous experiences, the beings didn't change as much as it was expected! Imagine the changing of an anphibious to a reptil or bird and then mammal and then getting back to square one, and then taking the same old path again or different course of evolution.... Ridiculous! Adaptation is something already PROGRAMMED in genetic. Antibiotic would never change an Echeria Coli into Shigella or Salmonella or Streptococus. People who believe in such fantasy are just part of the how-to-make-an-idiotic-to-believe-what-we-say with designs of bowed apes transforming into a tall man without that much hair (specially female). There was someone who wanted even to compare the hirsute and thick hair of animal with human female! The comparision between embryos would say we're closer to pigs, rabbits and chicken than chimps! But at the same time they show the photographs and the same old designs as an old fashioned leftover argument, they say similarities really don't prove evolution! Hypocresy all over the place, food for ignorant who don't have the slightest clue what is mutation. I defy any paleonthologist or biologist to defy the words quoted by Nobel Prize winner and those scientists I mentioned by name in my posting above. Who will be the moron who dares to defy what genetic has prove?
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That statement 'look at the fossils at the museum' is an example of ignorance beyond imaginable. Wherever you check you'll see the parts of those creatures were already formed, no intermediary thing changing one thing into another specie in a hocus pocus magic imagined by Darwin before he knew what genetic has provided. Hence, what before was alleguedly done by daddy Chronus-Time in a deaf and dumb slow-motion evolution ...lacking evidence was changed into another -and convenient- formula called "macroevolution", that is, an evolution so fast that didn't require the evidence of specific fossils CHANGING one thing into another. In other words, since that happened so quick it wasn't required those fossils and we have to believe in such "gaps" or "missing links" without evidence. That's faith disguised as "science". As I explained before, mutations was the magic solution but it didn't help either cos 99% of the mutants are not the best example of survival of the most skilled, in fact are leftovers, things to be replaced and died. An albino, a giant, a being with two heads, leporine lips, Dawn syndrome repeating chromosome 21, hermafrodite poliploid with 6 fingers (probably black and giant and retarded) are mutants. Check 2 Samuel 21:18-22 as an example of a mutant.
Adaptation was confused with evolution but some idiotic people can't know the difference between one thing and another, they don't know the limits of the hybridation EVEN IN SIMILAR SPECIES (like lions and tigers or horses and donkeys producing tiglons or ligrons in the first case and mules in the second or the combinations between wolves and dogs and llamas and camels, etc) are limited by sterilization. So, Darwin's imbecility went saying the changes or "adaptations" would be so great that would jump the limits of DNA plan. That is ridiculous. Experiences bombing flies with gamma rays didn't change them into scorpions or spiders. They added eyes, set eyes on the wings, added a couple of feet or wings but by atavic law they got back to what they were in the next generations. So even with GENETIC ENGINEERING AND MANIPULATION TO DO SOMETHING NATURE NEVER DID WITH A DISTANT METEOR OR COMET, and continuous experiences, the beings didn't change as much as it was expected! Imagine the changing of an anphibious to a reptil or bird and then mammal and then getting back to square one, and then taking the same old path again or different course of evolution.... Ridiculous! Adaptation is something already PROGRAMMED in genetic. Antibiotic would never change an Echeria Coli into Shigella or Salmonella or Streptococus. People who believe in such fantasy are just part of the how-to-make-an-idiotic-to-believe-what-we-say with designs of bowed apes transforming into a tall man without that much hair (specially female). There was someone who wanted even to compare the hirsute and thick hair of animal with human female! The comparision between embryos would say we're closer to pigs, rabbits and chicken than chimps! But at the same time they show the photographs and the same old designs as an old fashioned leftover argument, they say similarities really don't prove evolution! Hypocresy all over the place, food for ignorant who don't have the slightest clue what is mutation. I defy any paleonthologist or biologist to defy the words quoted by Nobel Prize winner and those scientists I mentioned by name in my posting above. Who will be the moron who dares to defy what genetic has prove?
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