Creation vs. Evolution (Earth, Eden, genesis, eternal, bible)

[inca]

By the way, Q's prediction about the future of Earth and Mars is wrong too!

[inca]

By the way, Q's prediction about the future of Earth and Mars is wrong too!

[Mr Spinkles]

But if you consider what I say absurd cos lack of understanding why do I have to waste time and extra energy talking about the simian line on the palm of the hand of a certain mutant and the astonishing details which I'll rather than write about????? Hmmm?

Good question I'm wondering the same thing :lol:


Once again:

If humans didn't evolve, then why don't we find any human fossils way back in the fossil record? Why, instead, are there so many fossils that appear to be partly ape, then half ape half human, then partly human, then mostly ape? What is your alternative theory to explain these observations (a scientific explaination please--no sci fi movies)?

Are the following photographs fossils of modern man, exactly how we are today? Or are they photos of modern apes, exactly as they are today? If not, how do you scientifically explain these fossils which share characteristics of both man and ape?

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/sts5.jpg
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/oh24.jpg
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/1813.jpg
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/java.jpg
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/1470.jpg
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/3733.jpg
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/15000_side.jpg

[Mr Spinkles]

But if you consider what I say absurd cos lack of understanding why do I have to waste time and extra energy talking about the simian line on the palm of the hand of a certain mutant and the astonishing details which I'll rather than write about????? Hmmm?

Good question I'm wondering the same thing :lol:


Once again:

If humans didn't evolve, then why don't we find any human fossils way back in the fossil record? Why, instead, are there so many fossils that appear to be partly ape, then half ape half human, then partly human, then mostly ape? What is your alternative theory to explain these observations (a scientific explaination please--no sci fi movies)?

Are the following photographs fossils of modern man, exactly how we are today? Or are they photos of modern apes, exactly as they are today? If not, how do you scientifically explain these fossils which share characteristics of both man and ape?

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/sts5.jpg
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/oh24.jpg
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/1813.jpg
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/java.jpg
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/1470.jpg
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/3733.jpg
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/15000_side.jpg

[painted wolf]

maybe the aliens had to give it a few goes before they got it right?

still doesn't explain where all the othe animals came from...

Originally Posted by inca

We were genetically modified not cos direct intervention of Almighty Himself nor for natural evolution but to do exactly what we are doing with apes now, yet the purpose was making an army of slave clones

mg:

wa:-do

[painted wolf]

maybe the aliens had to give it a few goes before they got it right?

still doesn't explain where all the othe animals came from...

Originally Posted by inca

We were genetically modified not cos direct intervention of Almighty Himself nor for natural evolution but to do exactly what we are doing with apes now, yet the purpose was making an army of slave clones

mg:

wa:-do

[Mr Spinkles]

ROTFLMAO!!

:lol:

I hope the aliens don't draft me, I'm a hemophiliac! mg:

[Mr Spinkles]

ROTFLMAO!!

:lol:

I hope the aliens don't draft me, I'm a hemophiliac! mg:

[inca]

Painted Wolf understood it quite well. Similar characteristics doesn't mean they were man for Christ sake! Have you seen someone with duplication of chromosome 21? Now imagine him with hirsutism. Would that convert him into an orangotango? The so called ape-man didn't survive the apes. They were mutants and indeed according to Sumerian account many tentatives were made and most of them resulted in these hairy monsters. The final experience used at least 7 Adamus or Adapas to get it finally right. Didn't you understand the example of breeding different species of modern apes won't produce new specie? You have to review again what the scientists explain about mutation. So you can ask me the same question 1000 times and still won't understand. You still use the same argument that "similar skulls" has to prove half-way missing link.
Painted Wolf: According to Genesis and Sumerian account the beings were not created but just "form" according to their own "kind". Modern clasification of "specie", "family", etc, still proves you can't cross same DNA barriers. Only by genetic manipulation eventually in the future may be possible but not naturally. You know even cloning was extremely difficult cos the Scottish scientist won't give too much emphasis to the fact many failure tentatives were done before until the desired achievment. I have said and repeat the geological strata reveals an explosion of different kind of life appears in different moments. Yet there was no evolution or missing links between them, all parts of the fossils don't have transformation of legs, wings or whatever. The parts were complete. Hence "macroevolution" term was invented admiting the evolution came so fast that the half-way fossils were no longer required. So evolutionists have to accept by faith (very convinient) something in the past was attributed to slow-motion time effect happening in millions of years of evolution. Darwin of course feared the evidence would make the readers distrust his theory that's why in his Origin of Species 7 times he says readers should ignore the fossil evidence. He used faith believing in the future the fossils would eventually reveal what he couldn't find. Here we are an the fossils remain as ever, no missing links. If the "hominids" were survived until now, a comparision of skulls between them and the photos of the sites provided here wouldn't show so much difference. Mosquitos were mosquitos since they came until now, so the rest of animals. To believe missing link in other species is as fallacious as believing in "hominids". To trust they didn't survive cos of competence or whatever reason repeated over and over ain't science either. But we're spinning in circles now and I'm beginning to be bore.

[inca]

Painted Wolf understood it quite well. Similar characteristics doesn't mean they were man for Christ sake! Have you seen someone with duplication of chromosome 21? Now imagine him with hirsutism. Would that convert him into an orangotango? The so called ape-man didn't survive the apes. They were mutants and indeed according to Sumerian account many tentatives were made and most of them resulted in these hairy monsters. The final experience used at least 7 Adamus or Adapas to get it finally right. Didn't you understand the example of breeding different species of modern apes won't produce new specie? You have to review again what the scientists explain about mutation. So you can ask me the same question 1000 times and still won't understand. You still use the same argument that "similar skulls" has to prove half-way missing link.
Painted Wolf: According to Genesis and Sumerian account the beings were not created but just "form" according to their own "kind". Modern clasification of "specie", "family", etc, still proves you can't cross same DNA barriers. Only by genetic manipulation eventually in the future may be possible but not naturally. You know even cloning was extremely difficult cos the Scottish scientist won't give too much emphasis to the fact many failure tentatives were done before until the desired achievment. I have said and repeat the geological strata reveals an explosion of different kind of life appears in different moments. Yet there was no evolution or missing links between them, all parts of the fossils don't have transformation of legs, wings or whatever. The parts were complete. Hence "macroevolution" term was invented admiting the evolution came so fast that the half-way fossils were no longer required. So evolutionists have to accept by faith (very convinient) something in the past was attributed to slow-motion time effect happening in millions of years of evolution. Darwin of course feared the evidence would make the readers distrust his theory that's why in his Origin of Species 7 times he says readers should ignore the fossil evidence. He used faith believing in the future the fossils would eventually reveal what he couldn't find. Here we are an the fossils remain as ever, no missing links. If the "hominids" were survived until now, a comparision of skulls between them and the photos of the sites provided here wouldn't show so much difference. Mosquitos were mosquitos since they came until now, so the rest of animals. To believe missing link in other species is as fallacious as believing in "hominids". To trust they didn't survive cos of competence or whatever reason repeated over and over ain't science either. But we're spinning in circles now and I'm beginning to be bore.