Creation vs. Evolution (Earth, Eden, genesis, eternal, bible)

[Death]

Originally Posted by deahca2

Sorry, I think that's a low blow. Not EVERYONE takes scriptures literally.
G-d may have created scientifically. I find that both beliefs creation /evolution can live quite well together
One day could well mean 1 billion years or parsec for that matter.

The majority of educated muslims/christians/whatever believe in evolution and reconcile it with their holy text as you have done. Which is fine and dandy, but it only works because you're not reading the text as it's written. Because when it says something stupid like "the Earth was made in 7 days" and reality begs to differ, the holy text must still be right, so "7 days" must mean something deeper, and you change your views accordingly.

[Master Hoomer]

to me as a magician..the 7 days are clearly the 7 directions one uses to define 3 dimensional space....

north, east, west, south, up down and within
Rabbi Ayreh Kaplan argues this in his version of the Sefer yetzirah

We can also se the 7 directions clearly in the eden tale...the tree of life being surrounded by 4 rivers....again 6 directions witha 7th as within or the apex in this case.......

This arguyment holds true for many cultures..as MANY cultures have the 7 directions in their religious practises........

Thats just my thoughts

[Death]

Originally Posted by Master Hoomer

to me as a magician..the 7 days are clearly the 7 directions one uses to define 3 dimensional space....

north, east, west, south, up down and within
Rabbi Ayreh Kaplan argues this in his version of the Sefer yetzirah

We can also se the 7 directions clearly in the eden tale...the tree of life being surrounded by 4 rivers....again 6 directions witha 7th as within or the apex in this case.......

This arguyment holds true for many cultures..as MANY cultures have the 7 directions in their religious practises........

Thats just my thoughts

If you're arguing directions there are infinite in 4 dimensional space, not 7.

[Master Hoomer]

If you're arguing directions there are infinite in 4 dimensional space, not 7.

NO 7 directions to define 3 dimensional space.....

up down...north east wesrt south and within...

x,y and z ....

[Green Gaia]

I think it does not matter so much how we got here but instead where we are going and further evolving to. Yes, it is important to understand the past, but there comes a time when we must admit that we cannot know for certain exactly how humans came to be on this Earth. All cultures and all religions have their own stories of creation, (some of my favorite are Native American creation stories because they are very nature-oriented). But in the end, it does not matter what story or theory one believes, what is more important that we recognize that no matter how we came to be in the first place we are evolving even now.

[Death]

Originally Posted by Master Hoomer

If you're arguing directions there are infinite in 4 dimensional space, not 7.

NO 7 directions to define 3 dimensional space.....

up down...north east wesrt south and within...

x,y and z ....

XYZ and T are 4 dimensions, not 7. Using those you can label any point or subset of measurable dimensions.

"Within" is not a credible direction, it's a metaphor, the others are actually directions, though n/s/w/e are geodependent and can be infinitely divided.

[Master Hoomer]

XYZ and T are 4 dimensions, not 7. Using those you can label any point or subset of measurable dimensions.

"Within" is not a credible direction, it's a metaphor, the others are actually directions, though n/s/w/e are geodependent and can be infinitely divided.

3 dimensions..not 4..I never mentioned 4 dimensional space.....

the 7th direction would be the apex...the origin point of an xyz graph.....

This is not math...this is spirituality.....
But...Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan...who points this out in the sefer yetzirah...(as I saiod the idea of the 7 directions is rather universal..)..which is JEWISH..and the original topic was concerned with judaic/christian creation...ie 7 days.... yes get to the p[ont..the point being that Rabbi Kaplan was ALSO a physcist..a renowned physcist..in fact the youngest physcist to be employed by the US military...before giving it up and dedicating his life th Kabbalah.....

Argue with him..not me!..lol

[Death]

Originally Posted by Master Hoomer

3 dimensions..not 4..I never mentioned 4 dimensional space.....

That's the kind you use every day to arrange appointments, drive cars and the like.

the 7th direction would be the apex...the origin point of an xyz graph.....

No it wouldn't. Origins have no direction, they are the bisection of 2 lines which you can go either direction on.

This is not math...this is spirituality.....
But...Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan...who points this out in the sefer yetzirah...(as I saiod the idea of the 7 directions is rather universal..)..which is JEWISH..and the original topic was concerned with judaic/christian creation...ie 7 days.... yes get to the p[ont..the point being that Rabbi Kaplan was ALSO a physcist..a renowned physcist..in fact the youngest physcist to be employed by the US military...before giving it up and dedicating his life th Kabbalah.....

Argue with him..not me!..lol

Firstly, since evolution and theories on how the universe came about are scientific, they aren't spiritual, they're descriptions of natural processes and models of how things work.

Creationism also claims to be scientific, so is judged by the same criteria.

This 7 directions stuff is stupid and makes no sense, you have 360 degrees worth of possible directions.

[Master Hoomer]

Well death if you dont get it you dont get it....
the 7 directions are in the bible...and in most creation myths...

upto you....if you cant see the forest for the trees!

[Master Hoomer]

Since when has a myth been science?
science?
:cry: :lol: :shock: I think maybe I should shut up